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Originally posted by RothchildRancor
Originally posted by neo96
I'm not attempting to debunk the whole "Ancient Alien" theory and in all honesty I'm just as open minded enough as the next person to believe in the existence ET's and their possible visitations both past and/or presently. Having said that, I refuse to blindly give credit to each and every perceived anomalies in ancient construction to ET.
I am not so open minded when it comes to ancient aliens being here on earth because if they had why would their be war,disease, and famine that still around today.
That's not to say there is not intelligent life out there, but pretty arrogant to think they would come here people have long thought themselves as the center of the universe seems some have not learned from history.
It is also pretty arrogant to say "man was just to dumb" to build all those wonders by himself man owes what he currently has and that of the past to himself.
Why would Aliens coming to Earth prevent War, Disease, and Famine?
Are Aliens perfect beings?
and just by coincidence the Dogon did too. such an important discovery, yet they both forgot about it and made up stories of space people
Originally posted by phroziac
reply to post by bottleslingguy
Its possible that sumerians had telescopes. Just because we havent seen one doesnt mean they didnt exist.
Originally posted by torqpocMy personal take on this is that I question not the how, but the why. Why did these people, who had years and thousands of people to build and carve out and put together these wondrous buildings and sites actually do so.
Originally posted by pauljs75
I posted this concept in another older thread, but I think it fits here too...
Not technically a "wheel" but serves the purpose.
Doing a bit of scrap paper math... (Sandstone block with volume of 27 cubic feet, calculating weight based on average density, using rolling resistance formula with ground deformation of about 1 inch, etc.) I found that it takes about 350lbs force to overcome that rolling resistance if applied to a lever and using torque instead of just pushing. (Once rolling, momentum makes it even easier to keep going on a level grade.) It's because of how rolling resistance greatly decreases with diameter. So one or two people can move a stone block that's heavier than what most modern cranes can lift, provided you move it in the right way.
I'll put some links to make it easier to play with the numbers.
Sometimes stuff gets lost, but I think people in past history are more clever than we give them credit for.
Originally posted by Flavian
Originally posted by Spike Spiegle
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by RothchildRancor
Why would Aliens coming to Earth prevent War, Disease, and Famine? Are Aliens perfect beings?
Why wouldn't they?
They gave them secret knowledge to build massive monuments so why would they not give other tech to "primitive" man?
Answer is because they didn't give them either one.
Originally posted by crackerjack
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
What method was used? How can you ask them to acknowledge a method you yourself can not state what it is? Sandstone is soft. It is known that harder materials are found in the area which would allow someone to create the holes. Master craftsmen with time and patience can do it. Please tell me what methodology was used. Please tell me exactly why my method would not work.
It's granite, a simple google search is all you need
Originally posted by Cypress
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by SLAYER69
Has anyone debunked the Sumerian relief of the solar system yet? It supposedly shows the sun at the center with the planets orbiting around it long before telescopes. I believe there are also writings that describe the color of the furthest planets. If not debunked, how could they have known these things so long ago?
Aristarchus of Samos had a competing theory with Ptolemy that argued a Sun centered system. Don't need a telescope, the movement of the visible planets in the night sky over time shows that.