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Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by AnimositisominA
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by AnimositisominA
Every ancient god, that is PRE-Christian god has be demonized by Christianity.
Just another holy roller on a high horse here. If I were a mason, Id feel no need
to defend my beliefs or practices from such silliness.
You practice the occult, and likely actively follow demons. You just call them "god's". Well that is what most people who have the serpentine eye in their avatar do anyways.
Christ just happenet 2,000 years ago. Are you referring to the I AM (existence) in general?
Thank you for proving my point. I'd love to help you find the answers that you are looking for, but I think that you are just fishing for things to generalize, judge, and bash. Have you ever once looked into the roots of your beliefs that have been written, re-written, censored and manipulated roughly 2000 years ago and since? You'd find many answers if you did with a balanced mind. Oh no, that would be "esotiric"(lol) and occult. Oh noes! the debbil! lol
So you do not practice occult or believe in pagan "gods"? is that what you are saying?
Yes I have looked into it and considered *both* sides prior to my reversion to Catholicism. I had a lot of people around me that are biased like yourself, therefore it took me a while to consider the side that is true. "oh noes the debbil" is another common phrase I have found people in the occult use....
Maybe your not, maybe you just like the culture IDK.
That is a serpentine eye, and a reference to the occult. But just go with it whatever. Humans can stare intently with a serpentine eye... it is such basic occult teaching that I have actually heard of it and I make it a point to avoid that garbage.edit on 10-12-2012 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NotAnAspie
I think lower levels tend to completely disregard the fact that by becoming a willing member in such a way to a large dicey conglomeration that tends to carry a foul reputation and IS noted for well known members being elite globalist (which is really the bottom line in my book that puts them in bed with Satan)... they disregard the ways in which demonic energy spreads.
Face it... When you say freemasons you are practically saying rockefeller agenda.
Look at wars of the west and all the mess around. Not only is it evil, it's one of the largest, most influential evils of society in this age.
Demons? Absolutely!
Now ask yourself "Why am I a member in the first place that would tie my tie my spirituality and life intentions to this great beast?"
only you know the answer to that but it most likely serves some purpose in your life. Maybe it's gets you more pats on the back in your community from certain people... or something like that. That's how the evil gets in and that's why you are a part of it and a part of it you willingly became. You support their cause, you help spread their intentions and the stain of evil that is inside the greediest of the most elite is also inside it's lower members even if they don't actually bow to Satan(like little replicating DNA changing viruses)
It's practically the same thing though and millions of people have had their blood spilled upon the ground in order to fuel that demonic entity and they have even found many ways of getting the blood on every one elses hands as well.
Whether they mean for it to be or not TECHNICALLY.... all the global psychological mind assault, all these lies, all this bloodshed.... is a ritual to Satan.
If You follow them, "just for curiosity"... you open doors for demons, "just to be polite"
Originally posted by NarrowGate
I'm sorry I forgot that you are not familiar with Christian beliefs.
Satan wants us to forget he exists. You trying to hard to push that belief on me just looks bad.
I actually said multiple times that I do not believe Masons worship demons.
Combine that with one of your friends, who is not a Mason, jumping in to tell us how great Moloch is and it looks even worse.
Since that is not the case, and you never claim to worship Satan, and he is not a Mason - it just looks real bad like I already said.
I am sure you have learned a valuable lesson from all of this, I can tell you that much.
Originally posted by AnimositisominA
Every ancient god, that is PRE-Christian god has be demonized by Christianity.
Just another holy roller on a high horse here. If I were a mason, Id feel no need
to defend my beliefs or practices from such silliness.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
If you are familiar with that Christian belief then you sure did not demonstrate it.
If you try to tell me Satan does not exist, you lend credibility to conspiracy of collaboration with Satan, because whether or not you know it Satan does exist and there are many many people who know that.
I still don't have evidence that you actually don't know that now do I?
Oh and the lesson? Don't try to push the belief of the non-existence of Satan on people as a Freemason. It discredits the whole brotherhood you are a part of because you represent them. You have displayed blatant intolerance since I met you on this website, and have pushed your beliefs on me since your first reply to me.
But, go ahead and tell me I am lying and ask for quotes. You are just as annoying as afterI, you will actually make me go dig up quotes that you already know are there.
I think you're getting hung up on a particular English translation. My interpretation of that passage is that Jesus is showing the path; he's given us the way to heaven if we live by his example. But that doesn't mean we need to worship Jesus. Jesus didn't want people worshiping him. He wanted to show us how to be good people. Anyone who lives by the morals he taught can get into heaven, whether they believe Jesus was divine or not.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Saurus
My God has told me there is no way to the Father except through Him, but if he has appeared to other cultures in a different form then it is still through him correct?
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by prevenge
reply to post by NarrowGate
but i'm not even going to read it...
just the fact that you believe in demons is .. just.. bordeline.. pathetically psychopathic delusional.
you actualy believe.. that there are beings that are out to get you.
if they are.. then why give them time of day?
Yes of course, don't you!? I also believe in the Gospel but call me crazy.
OK I am going to ignore the fact that you just...borderline..insulted me and try to shed light on this topic for you. First understand I do not think Freemasons worship them.
I understand that Gnosticism is what you adhere to, so I take it you are one of those people that prides themselves on their intelligence, and likes to feel smarter than others. That is apparent in your spiritual path and your comments.
Demon's tempt us constantly, when you leave the house odds are you will be tested by a demon at some point in the day. This is called ordinary activity of demons - Tempting.
Extraordinary activity occurs when God allows. These are the things you label people crazy for by default, when they actually might not be crazy.
It includes:
Oppression (very common, compared to the rest)
Obsession (less common)
Possession (rare, but not *very rare*. just rare)
Infestation (not sure how common that one is, but I am pretty sure it is more common than Obsession)
And I might be missing one or two I forget now. I know what all of those forms of demonic activity I mentioned cause in a persons life, would you like to know more?
Oh and you don't "give them the time of day"? To understand your Salvation, you must acknowledge the evil one's works and the legion itself as being real.edit on 9-12-2012 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
So you wish for their manifestation, the only they can manifest is by acknowledgement, so why?
Also you say "First understand I do not think Freemasons worship them" in a Thread you yourself started and titled "Do Freemasons worship demons!? I used to think not. Then I read this".
The question at the end of the post you were replying too was your test and you failed, you seem fascinated by demons and how they operate
When you say freemasons you are practically saying rockefeller agenda.
Now ask yourself "Why am I a member in the first place that would tie my tie my spirituality and life intentions to this great beast?"
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by NotAnAspie
NarrowGate, this is the kind of thing I was referring to in regards to the whole "high level vs low level" myth.
NotAnAspie, please explain to me what constitutes, in your opinion, a low level and a high level Mason.
When you say freemasons you are practically saying rockefeller agenda.
In what way do the Rockefellers have to do with Freemasonry?
Now ask yourself "Why am I a member in the first place that would tie my tie my spirituality and life intentions to this great beast?"
You'd first have to prove that Freemasonry is "tied to this great beast". You make assertions, but your kind never provides any actual proof.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by AnimositisominA
Every ancient god, that is PRE-Christian god has be demonized by Christianity.
Just another holy roller on a high horse here. If I were a mason, Id feel no need
to defend my beliefs or practices from such silliness.
I quote this post, and not your last one.
If you enjoy practicing the occult I do not know what to tell you. Yes it is hidden and for a reason, it leads to demons. But whatever, you probably don't even think they exist.
the "ancient gods" are demons. you already knew that though.
Holly roller on a high horse? You just lost all credibility. Add in the occult and this is the last time I will respond.