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Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
No. For us to make that call would contradict dogma.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
Depends on who the supreme being is though, and definitely on their level of understanding.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
The problem arises the most when extremists take things out of context,
Originally posted by NarrowGate
well at least that is what I have seen. I know the Christian Bible warns about that. Right in the beginning of the NT actually....
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
If put back in context there is no logical disconnect. If taken out of the context yes there would appear to be one.
IDK, I take the book of Job to be Divinely written.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
I think you just had one of those logical disconnect things you mentioned.
Either that or I am missing something. Could you state what my argument is and your counter to it, just for clarity?
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
Depends on who the supreme being is though, and definitely on their level of understanding.
Sorry but are you suggesting that there's more than one Supreme Being? Can you please explain how that's possible? And why it's God and not Dieu, Gottt, Allah, etc?
Originally posted by NarrowGate
The problem arises the most when extremists take things out of context,
Absolutely. No argument there
Originally posted by NarrowGate
well at least that is what I have seen. I know the Christian Bible warns about that. Right in the beginning of the NT actually....
Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. Shall you presume yourself to be the sword of the Almighty, knowing His Will absolutely?
Fitz
Originally posted by NarrowGate
1. No there is only one God. He is 3 persons. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Abrahamic religions know of the Father, and one of them calls the Son a prophet for reasons I am interested in figuring out.
When I said supreme being it was meant to be interpreted as a term and not the name of Him. A term to describe the religion.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
2. No... Vengeance is the Lord's but I am unclear about why you bring that up.
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
I think you just had one of those logical disconnect things you mentioned.
Either that or I am missing something. Could you state what my argument is and your counter to it, just for clarity?
How do you KNOW that they're praying to God? They certainly aren't using His name as you know it. And you only have their word that that word actually means what you think it does. The French and the Germans might all be closet Satanists. I mean, what two countries were at the centre of the two world wars??? Hmmmm?
Ever thought about that?
Fitz
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
If put back in context there is no logical disconnect. If taken out of the context yes there would appear to be one.
IDK, I take the book of Job to be Divinely written.
And nothing else? Why the Book of Job? Do you not parse the disconnect that the words, written by a frail, fallible, imperfect creature trying to understand the unknowable may be at best not fulsome, not complete? We strive to know the unknowable but it's hubris to assert that we now know the unknowable. I'm a humble man; I admit my shortcomings. That, however, isn't an absolute across mankind. I have a visceral distrust of those who confidently claim to know the mind of the Almighty. They are closer to our understanding of evil than any other creature I could imagine.
Fitz
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
How do you KNOW that they're praying to God? They certainly aren't using His name as you know it. And you only have their word that that word actually means what you think it does. The French and the Germans might all be closet Satanists. I mean, what two countries were at the centre of the two world wars??? Hmmmm?
Ever thought about that?
Fitz
I am sorry, I have absolutely no idea what this post means. It makes no sense to me.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Jesus is the only name I know of for God other than what we have left of the name "YHWH".
Originally posted by NarrowGate
No I have never thought about that. You should refrain from thinking about that. I am certain the French and the Germans are not closet Satanists.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
How does taking the book of Job as divinely inspired equate to that being the only book that is divinely inspired...
No, God is the Word incarnate. The Word is intact.
Originally posted by relocator
Do Freemasons worship demons!?
LOL!!! None of them on ATS will admit to it...LOL!!!
Nor will any link you find will convince them otherwise...LOL!!!
Debating with a Freemason on ATS is a waste of time...LOL!!!
Until you get it on film and even then I doubt they will admit it happens...will they submit. Especially to a women...LOL!!!
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
The French and the Germans are not all closet Satanists and are aware of the Lord and His name.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Jesus is the Son of God. The name of God is Jesus. This I know.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
IDK what else to tell you. How? It is obvious. You can see it or choose not to.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
There are probably some who deny that 2+2 = 4, and tell us we have no proof. To us it seems the proof is there, but to them - maybe our proof is insufficient because they want 2+2 to = 5.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
Well you are working based off of some false pretenses, but you are about to start touching on the nature of reality.
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
Well you are working based off of some false pretenses, but you are about to start touching on the nature of reality.
Well that's an amusing assertion. The kettle calling the pot black.
I'm quite sure my understanding is a bit more complete than yours
Fitz