Strange Dream - Rainbows

Originally posted by htapath

Originally posted by Gregorian
I have never bumped my own post before

Why did you pick now to bump your own post. Was it an emergency?

More to a spiritual "emergence" actually.
'Emergence' is more fluid and less overwhelming and less traumatic than 'emergency.'

A spiritual 'emergency' could be defined as a critical and experientially difficult stage of a profound psychological transformation that involves one's entire being.

"Trust that which gives you meaning and accept it as your guide." -- Carl Jung

reply to post by Gregorian

"Trust that which gives you meaning and accept it as your guide." -- Carl Jung

Have you read the works of Jung, or do you just quote the stuff that "sounds" good to you?

The previous posts by you in the thread make it seem like the latter is true.

Originally posted by Gregorian

Originally posted by htapath

Originally posted by Gregorian
I have never bumped my own post before

Why did you pick now to bump your own post. Was it an emergency?

More to a spiritual "emergence" actually.
'Emergence' is more fluid and less overwhelming and less traumatic than 'emergency.'

A spiritual 'emergency' could be defined as a critical and experientially difficult stage of a profound psychological transformation that involves one's entire being.

"Trust that which gives you meaning and accept it as your guide." -- Carl Jung

edit on 9-12-2012 by Gregorian because: (no reason given)

The OP is having her spiritual emergence, just to make it perfectly clear to you brother.

I suggest that you empty your cup of all your self righteous beliefs, as they are holding you back.

This is the age of knowing.

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I agree.

Archaism is a dusty road leading nowhere, it is a time for us all to evolve past outdated models engrained into our collective consciousness.

I do suggests the works of Carl Jung, it was one of the things that helped me the most towards finding my center.

It is a beautiful place in here.

Thank you all for your input. I do appreciate it very much.

However, I can tell you for sure that my "spiritual awakening" happened a long time ago, and it was a process that took many years.

One thing that I learned during this process was not to discount anything, nor to take anything at face value. But, the more important thing that I learned is that learning and growing spiritually is a process that does not end. There isn't a single moment that defines it, but many small moments that help us along that path that help us grow, and that help us to become what we are meant to be.

Rather than trying to figure out which prophecy was "right", or whether science "wins" over religious belief I try to look for where they all tie in together, what they have in common. I believe that is the only way to find the true message. I do not rely on a sole set of teachings by one faith or religion, but all of them. To do so , IMHO is a detriment to the human spirit, and to society as a whole. I believe it is the crux of what is wrong with this world. I see it as walking around with blinders on.

One of the reasons that I chose to post this dream on ATS is because of the varied beliefs and experiences out there, and the fact that being able to "decode" this dream eludes me. I WANT to see it from other perspectives, to see the other possibilities in this.

Is this a message? Is this my subconscious way of dealing will all the Teotwawki doom porn? I don't know, and I am trying to figure it out. A puzzle gets solved much more easily by having others looking at the pieces from a different perspective, and that is what I am trying to do.

With that said, if you are among those that have posted here that seem to be of the mindset that I need "saving" or some sort of "guidance" do me a favor....go to the "Short Story" forum and read what I have written...there are links in my signature to these stories. To me they are not stories, they are metaphoric expressions of how I feel, what I would do in the circumstances portrayed in those scenarios. If you can look beyond the narrative and "see" who I am and what I stand for that is written between the lines in those stories, maybe you wouldn't be so inclined to say that I am in need of "saving".

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Thank you for sharing the dream.

Looking at your "stories" now.

Originally posted by Gregorian
reply to post by ThreeSistersofLoveandLigh

 

The circular is a sign of perfection - in this case it represents the perfection of Christ, because He is always associated with the rainbow.

As for the Oval - To dream of an oval represents an awareness on your part of something not being perfect all the time. You may feel that something you want always escapes you or never happens the way you wanted it to. OR you may feel 'imperfect' in Christ! So the appearance of the oval helps you to gain new insights into your relationship with/to Christ.

edit on 9-12-2012 by Gregorian because: (no reason given)

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I did not ignore your post, and if you perceived my not responding to it as a slight against you, I apologize.

It is very difficult to take a statement seriously when I see a statement as flawed, and contains an absolute that I know not to be true.

Rainbows are not ALWAYS associated with Christ. Maybe in the Christian view, but not in mine.

In Sumerian mythology, this was seen as a divine sanction for war...
In Greek mythology Isis was "clothed in a rainbow"...
The Hindu god of thunder and war, Indra, used the rainbow to shoot arrows....
In Japan a rainbow was a bad omen because they represent snakes...
In Norse mythology a rainbow is the "bridge" between the worlds. ...

I could go on and on.

Christ is the embodiment of all that is loving, caring and good, something that I live to emulate, and probably more so than most Christians I know. But I don't do it because I am told I must, I do it because that is what I feel and believe to be right. Not because I adhere to a group of instructions, but because by doing so I feel at peace. To suggest that I need to seek out and make myself right with Christ is pretty presumptuous.That mindset is what made me "walk away" from Christianity a long time ago. I could not, and will not discount something just because the church told me I must.

I don't feel "imperfect in Christ" as a matter of fact, I feel just the opposite. Just because I don't adhere to Christian doctrine doesn't mean I haven't found some wisdom in it and I really, really wish that others could grasp these concepts and not look down their noses at someone because they don't.

Your post did give me pause to think about some things and because of your post I have come to consider other possibilities of what the rainbow may represent. Just because I didn't answer your post doesn't mean that it was ignored.

Thanks for the original post and for clearing the air, so to speak.

My spiritual awakening occurred when I was 13 years old and I'm 46 presently. And it was a very rude awakening by anyone's standard. I have posted about it on ats in a thread I created about weird experiences.

In my view, an emergence is much different than an awakening. Semantics aside, I really just want to congratulate you and wish you continued grace on your journey home.

This is an attempt to clarify my earlier response which may have been taken out of context.

Originally posted by htapath
I really just want to congratulate you and wish you continued grace on your journey home.

Congratulate me on what?

Originally posted by ThreeSistersofLoveandLigh

Originally posted by htapath
I really just want to congratulate you and wish you continued grace on your journey home.

Congratulate me on what?

Nothing. I surely didn't mean to upset you in any way.

I'm sorry. Please forgive me.

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There isn't anything to forgive, you did not upset me, just made me curious.

Nothing eh? I have a hard time believing that.

Still trying to work out the rainbow thing though....

Some of the responses here have given me reason to pause and think.

The one thing about dreams, whether they be a subconscious expression of things that you are dealing with, or a message, as seems to be the consensus of what dreaming is, I have found that it is usually very personal. In that the symbols in the dreams are often meant to be interpreted by the dreamer. So I have to stop and think...what does a rainbow represent to me?

Let's start there...

A separation of light, different portions of a whole, separate but still part of "light"....seeing the separation of light,one color flowing and "changing" into another, each color a vibration, a perception
Light...knowledge....different pieces of knowledge becoming, being part of the whole.

Could the rainbow becoming a circle represent this?

It's odd, because one thing that I have stated regarding the 2012 phenomenon is that I believe a sudden "wave of knowledge" will descend upon us all.

I believe the ancients knew far more than we often give them credit for, had a higher level of technology than we can currently understand. I also believe that there are only a few remnants because they lived more in harmony with nature and the planet than we do now, they understood it and learned from it.

Humans are the only species on the planet that change (destroy) the environment to suit our needs, rather than adapting to our environment and learning to survive within it. Is there a chance that somehow we will "remember"?

I guess I can only hope so.

reply to post by ThreeSistersofLoveandLigh


I believe he was trying to saying "congrats" on your journey towards your center.

For me that is my home, I take it wherever I go.

Mandala is Sanskrit for whole world or healing circle. It is a representation of the universe and everything in it. Khyil-khor is the Tibetan word for mandala and means "center of the Universe in which a fully awakened being abides." Circles suggest wholeness, unity, the womb, completion and eternity.

Meeting the Mandala

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If you have never read any Carl Jung before you may find his work interesting.

My favorite was Spiritual Pilgrims: Carl Jung and Teresa of Avila, next time you are at the library maybe check it out. Memories, Dreams, and Reflections is also very good.

Best wishes

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Are you familiar with The Prism of Lyra?

If not, this link might give you some insight.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



Edited to include a link with more information for you to consider relating to The Prism of Lyra.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

BTW - a rainbow is already a circle. Its just that - except in rare cases - we see only a segment; we don't get to see it in its fullness. It is to be taken as a sign of God's perfection as is Christ Himself - hence the traditional association of the rainbow as a sign of the presence of Christ. The first manifestation of God's glory - and as a sign of Hope for the human race - was the appearance of the rainbow over the Ark following the Great Flood.

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A very interesting read.

A lot of things in there to consider and think about.

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So, because I am willing entertain many lines of thought....What do you believe this dream is trying to tell me?

How do you believe this scenario should be interpreted?

Originally posted by ThreeSistersofLoveandLigh
reply to post by Gregorian

 

So, because I am willing entertain many lines of thought....What do you believe this dream is trying to tell me?

How do you believe this scenario should be interpreted?

I hesitate at a strict 'interpretation,' but I can reveal what has come to me spiritually in an instant - this in addition to, but not as a development of what I have earlier spoken about.

Simply stated and right off the top - and without too much interference, i.e., absent any mention of Christ implied or otherwise: The dream is a nexus point; like coordinates on a celestial map in the form of a matrix that reveals, in a highly condensed manner, your entire spiritual quest for answers; not just to the meaning of life, but of your own personal need for a meaningful relation to the other: to the one who is higher than you and beyond your reach: notwithstanding all that you now know.

As a spiritual woman seeking - the dream reveals that you once had a sense of that 'circular' perfection implied by the presence of the rainbow, but who now is finally confronted - head on - and who is prepared to deal with the doubt that arose at an earlier moment in your life.

The dream is not without its sense of the sacred - hence the presence of 'sacred' geometry as a means of conveying significant spiritual ideas symbolically. So in that sense you are coming to an awareness that by having compressed the circle you have misshapen what had been a previously held understanding of circular perfection.

As a consequence you may now be willing to search for Pi rather than to continue in your efforts at distorting the fullness of the circle through your own means, and by seeking alternative methods for a solution to which you already possess the answer.

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That is definitely an interesting take.

However, I really find the logic flawed in this for two main reasons:

1. As stated in my opening post:

"When everything finally settled down, and just before I woke up, I turned to someone and said "I can't wait, they now know, I was right."

2. In reply to post by KatieVA in which the question "Did you have any weird overwhelming feelings in the dream, too?" was asked, I replied:

"Yes, I had an overwhelming feeling of joy, of release. A feeling of relief."

Maybe you ignored those posts, or didn't see them.

I think that if what you state were somehow true, that if nothing else, I would have woken up sad and/or confused.

Care to try and explain why I woke up feeling just the opposite?

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Why did you send me a U2U titled "Unacceptable behavior" with the following message?

Your comments are out of order. Do the right thing and apologize.

I am sorry, but I do not feel my behavior was unacceptable. When you bumped your post and claimed the OP was ignoring you and then saying she was "imperfect" in Christ, I found to be "Unacceptable behavior".

I apologize my words somehow "upset" you enough to send me a U2U saying I owe you an apology.

I still stand by what I said in that moment.

I wish you the best.