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posted on Dec, 10 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Do you have anything to back up your claims of voter fraud?

I'm skeptical because that's the first thing that the anti-Obama folks throw out when they talk about the recent election results.

Yet, none have proven a damn thing.




posted on Dec, 10 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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Any evidence to back this up or is this the fairy tale you made up to justify anger?



posted on Dec, 10 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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This pisses me off and I will be writing a letter. I am not foolish enough to think this hasn’t been going on for a very long time as someone else pointed out it must have been a slow news day.

I do not mind that we give foreign aid but I do care when it is being wasted on things like this.


Anyone who blames any president for this is an idiot. Start with those in congress or the senate. Find out who thought this was a good idea and wrote the bill to begin with. Write to your congressman. I also blame MSM this is one little story and it is actually newsworthy. This is the kind of thing they should report on daily instead they talk about BS 99% of the time.

This is an actual issue the type of thing that should have been driving our election instead we are feed crap.

Writing your congressman may not accomplish much but not writing will do absolutely nothing.
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posted on Dec, 10 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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I am fairly sure there was voter fraud but I do not have any proof it is just my opinion. There was a thread and article that talked about how the voting machine would flip about 10% of the votes in Romney’s favor in the bigger cities and districts and I think it actually happened and Obama still won
. That’s why Carl Rove was so surprised and threw a fit during the election he couldn’t believe that even after rigging the machines that they lost so badly. That’s why when I look at the end numbers I think Obama won by another 6 or 7 percent considering as the other thread stated fixing the machines would only be done in larger districts so they wouldn’t get caught. They played dirty and still lost.

Anyway that is my opinion on what happened but I can’t prove it nor will I try to. Obama won regardless of how much the other side tried to oppress the vote or just plain steel the election. There were a lot of cases that I heard of the republicans cheating on big scales like one guy was caught throwing out democrat registration forms and such or people only registering republicans to vote but he still won. It should be a wakeup call to republicans however some think they should double down on their old ways. I say let them. It is fine with me if they never win again but I would much rather there be another platform that truly represents the people again. As of now republicans only represent big business and religious zealots but they have fooled many people into thinking they represent them. The poorest states are usually red states that benefit the most from the federal government yet they vote against their own interests.
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posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
I've never cared for foreign aid after the Marshall plan.
Our cities are crumbling at home but we can rebuild mosques and provide internet service and computers to Mali?
What's wrong with this picture?
Kind of makes the "Is Obama a Muslim?" conspiracies look real.


Yes, this is exactly what Dinesh DSouza talks about in his film "2016", about how Obama is trying to "level the playing field" of the US by breaking it's "colonialist" dominance and redistributing our wealth to make everything equitable in foreign third world countries. It is also part of the Marxist redistribution plan of Communism and Socialism.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by new_here
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Hmmm... separation of Church & State...
Unless it's churches in a foreign country?
Because in our own country, if something is funded, it can't preach a religious doctrine. Like schools, for example. No Federal Funding unless you follow the rules. But the rules don't apply beyond our borders.

They're giving money away to entities that do not pay any taxes into our system. And they wonder how to stop the deficit from growing.


This just goes to show that for Progressives it was never really about separation of church and state but eliminating Christianity and promoting other competing doctrines. I think the Sharia Law and Caliphate suits their indoctrination and Marxist Totalitarian ideals and they support the Muslim Brotherhood, which ironically has British Spy and Masonic origins.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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So how exactly are we able to do this?? we ship jobs, and money overseas... what about the people???



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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Voter fraud was suspected with bush so why not obama. I think its a game of who voter frauds the best at this point.

OR


What I think they actually do is pass power like a hot potato. . That they control the discontent of the people by dividing us into two groups. When one party is in power (assuming 50/50 for the partys) 50% are happy 50% are disgruntled. By the end of that partys term everyone is angry... they just switch to the other party and you are back to 50% happy and 50% disgruntled.



It is not a conspiracy theory it is just how ti naturally works out.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
I've never cared for foreign aid after the Marshall plan.
Our cities are crumbling at home but we can rebuild mosques and provide internet service and computers to Mali?
What's wrong with this picture?
Kind of makes the "Is Obama a Muslim?" conspiracies look real.


Would it honestly matter if Obama was a Muslim? He can be Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Atheist, or Jehova's Witness. It should not matter in the slightest bit, just like it should not matter that Mitt Romney is LDS. Judge on how the job is done and not the religion that they happen to be a part of. If you come to the same conclusion with religion being no part of the equation, all is well.





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