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posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:03 AM
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Americas slave prisions


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US breeds a Chinese-style inmate labor scheme on its own soil. Both state and some of the biggest private companies are now enjoying the fruits of a cheap and readily available work force, with tens of millions of dollars spent by private prisons to keep their jails full.
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posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:03 AM
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So while the USA moans about the Chinese workforce undercutting the American workforce, the US Gov seems to be fighting back, in the only way they know how.

There is nothing wrong with have prisoners work, but they should be doing things like breaking rocks or sweeping the streets, not working to make some corporate CEO rich & help drive the stock price up, i wonder if the employment register includes these prisoners as members of the workforce, this can help artificially raise the employment rate.

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posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:17 AM
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I done a short stint in an Aussie jail about 7 years ago... The same thing happens here. We are forced to work 9 days a fortnight with the second friday as an rdo
.. Anyway we were making Bunk Beds, other furniture and spa baths which would then be sold off to K-Mart. With that, the prison guards had shares in the business so I'm sure they were making a killing also.

Maybe thats why its cheap also



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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so what if you won't work ? no parole ? solitary ?



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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There is the incentive to keep the prison population high and well stocked with more workers. All in the name of provate profit of course, and no attempt at rehabilitation, which would of course deprive the private prison industry of profit. No wonder the US has the highest prison population in the world.


I agree too that prisoners should work, but not to enrich private corporations who, after all, are not the victims of the crimes the inmates are incarcerated for. Put them to work doing things for the communities from which they came instead.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
so what if you won't work ? no parole ? solitary ?



Where I was, if you refuse to work they put you in a 6x4 room and then send you off to a Maximum prison.. Same if you are caught with drugs in your system or beat the crap out of someone.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
so what if you won't work ? no parole ? solitary ?



Where I was, if you refuse to work they put you in a 6x4 room and then send you off to a Maximum prison.. Same if you are caught with drugs in your system or beat the crap out of someone.


Luckily I think they're starting to decriminalize marijuana here so there will be a lot less people being locked up fopr drugs in the US



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by ldyserenity
Luckily I think they're starting to decriminalize marijuana here so there will be a lot less people being locked up for drugs in the US


Hopefully they do but it wont happen here... If anything, our country is only gettin worse when it comes to law.. We are seriously heading towards police state fast where I am. They are also building massive numbers of rooms in prisons also which tells me its only going to get worse.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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in the Florida DOC, if you dont work, you dont get gaintime which means you dont get out early. IN NC, you dont work, you dont get gaintime either.
Funny thing is in NC, you get paid if you work. Itsa way below minimum wage, but you can buy stuff in the prison canteen at least. IN FL, you dont paid AT ALL. If noone sends you money, you get nothing.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 07:49 AM
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When I was doing it I got paid $6.50 a day.. After that there were two more levels you could go too. The next was $7 and then $8.. A 5th of it went into your kitty for when you got out. In jail though, it was enough to get you by because everything is cheaper than on the outside.

I was only in minimum though, don't know what it would be like in maximum. I could get an xbox brought in if I wanted



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 08:01 AM
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Corrections Corps is the biggest private prison company in the US. They currently have contracts in almost every state to run prisons, and the catch is that keeping the prisons at 98% capacity is part of the contract. This means that people will be getting arrested and going to prison more and more, for reasons that they traditionally wouldn't have gone to prison for. Police state meets corporate greed. Also, prisons are contracting various manufacturing jobs and products are being produced for pennies on the dollar. The private sector and the unemployment rate that comes with it are now in direct competition with the prison sector. Welcome to America 2012 and beyond.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy
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When I was doing it I got paid $6.50 a day.. After that there were two more levels you could go too. The next was $7 and then $8.. A 5th of it went into your kitty for when you got out. In jail though, it was enough to get you by because everything is cheaper than on the outside.

I was only in minimum though, don't know what it would be like in maximum. I could get an xbox brought in if I wanted


I think this is the problem though. Prison is supposed to be about rehabilitation and/or punishment. Playing Xbox in prison is not exactly rehabilitating nor punishment. It's vacation at that point.

I understand the idea of having something to works toward, but slave labor is still slave labor no matter prisoner or civilian. This should be illegal in the US.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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where at? I was in minimum IN NC, and there was none of that, I wanted my kindle because my only way to keep my sanity was to read, and the prison library sucked



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by shelookslikeone

Originally posted by DarknStormy
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When I was doing it I got paid $6.50 a day.. After that there were two more levels you could go too. The next was $7 and then $8.. A 5th of it went into your kitty for when you got out. In jail though, it was enough to get you by because everything is cheaper than on the outside.

I was only in minimum though, don't know what it would be like in maximum. I could get an xbox brought in if I wanted


I think this is the problem though. Prison is supposed to be about rehabilitation and/or punishment. Playing Xbox in prison is not exactly rehabilitating nor punishment. It's vacation at that point.

I understand the idea of having something to works toward, but slave labor is still slave labor no matter prisoner or civilian. This should be illegal in the US.


I take it you have never been incarcerated or known someone who was? I think they should get xbox and a flat screen. The real punishment comes from being thrown in a cage away from your family who will be struggling more now that you are gone. The rest is more like annoyances than punishment.

There is no rehabilitation what are you talking about? Oh yeah they have that program for the child molesters now.... Sorry they are rehabilitating some people back into society. They want the people making a living illegally to come back and make money for them instead, they want the child molesters to gtfo.

I have never been convicted of anything, but I was wrongfully thrown in jail. Around here it is so over crowded they put you in a "10 man" cell with 30 or so people in it. Sleep on concrete. It is a freakin dungeon not to mention cruel and unusual. 5 bucks for a 20 minute phone call, and you have to have a family member with a V-card to even do that at all. Otherwise no phone.

This is all before being convicted mind you.
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posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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Even though the US's prison population is growing, the vast majority of US citizens have never been to jail and still believe that our police/justice system works and discourages crime. They say you have a right to a trial of your peers but if your jury has never experienced the legal system they will blindly support the law enforcement and prosecutor almost 100% of the time and anyone with a record, even a minor one is de-facto excluded from being a juror.

I know of people who have long records and keep getting arrested, violate probation and parole yet get slapped on the wrist. Then there are people who get caught for something like driving on a suspended license when they didn't know their license was suspended and end up doing a significant amount of time. I'm not even going to elaborate on how unfair the drug laws, but selective enforcement and selective sentencing is an epidemic.

I've had my legal troubles, anyone who has known me for most of my life knows I am a good person, nonviolent, a good worker, ect..If you factor in lost wages it has cost me 6 figures and counting. I cannot find a decent paying job and most (white collar)jobs will hold any arrests over your head and use that as an excuse to pay you less and get passed up on promotions even if the incident occurred long before you worked there. I can't find a job that will pay me more than $10 an hour, even though I have an associates degree, military experience in avionics, and a bunch of other work experience. Because of that I cannot afford to have a driver's license or car which excludes me from 99% of the jobs out there.

I guess my point is the prosecutors and police force have no real understanding of how much a criminal record can ruin someones life. It seems like so many cops just want to make an arrest because it looks good on their evals and prosecutors want as many convictions or plea deals to help further their career. None are concerned about justice are truly fighting crime.
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That said, within the next year I hope to be an ex-Pat. I have lost my faith in the USA.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by HomerinNC
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where at? I was in minimum IN NC, and there was none of that, I wanted my kindle because my only way to keep my sanity was to read, and the prison library sucked


I'm in Australia but by the sounds of it, the exact same things are happening over there when it comes to the forced labour. In minimum here we get 6 berth units when we can be trusted i guess.. I'm sure you can get stuff brought in including video games etc. I don't think the same would apply at any higher prison. The prison has a cricket side also, particpates in the local competition and once a year they play AFL footy against another prison. Doesn't sound like a prison..
. But I guess the Idea of Minimum is preparing people to get back into society here. I only done 3 Months but there were others who had done years who were finishing off the last parts of there sentence.

Interesting place though, the prison is an old WW2 pow camp.
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posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Once this practice is legitimized and the people are apathetic to it; you will have a never ending supply of slave class human workers.

Less rights = more opportunity to invent crimes = more incarnated = more workers.

America will be then new Fox Conn but with prisoners and no "human rights" issues.

Oh wait...these are still people right? Wonder how they will tell the masses that they are not!



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by NarrowGate
I take it you have never been incarcerated or known someone who was? I think they should get xbox and a flat screen. The real punishment comes from being thrown in a cage away from your family who will be struggling more now that you are gone. The rest is more like annoyances than punishment.


That is spot on. Not only that, the days go very slow because you are waiting for that day to get out... The punishment is serving your sentence, nothing else.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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They are driving businesses out of business. Here's another story.

www.inquisitr.com...

Much government office furniture has been made in prisons for decades.

But I must be truthful, it makes sense to me. Even though it can be and probably is a corrupt way of doing business.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Excellent post. Even with no conviction they actually left a felony homicide on my record for over a year. I can tell you what that did to my job prospects, I was denied more than once.






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