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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
My father was the instigator creator of the nuclear effect in order to create matter.
Originally posted by Joecroft
So your spiritual Father, is God the Father?
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
My spiritual Father? you would have to convince me IT exists.
joecroft
But I thought we already established that IT = Source Entities Fear…?
So are you saying that your Spiritual Father is/was IT i.e. Source Entities Fear?
And you already stated that you destroyed Source Entity…so hmmm?
joecroft
Hidden-hand was an ATS member, who created an infamous thread, entitled “Window of Opportunity”. If you click the link in my last post, it will take you directly to that thread. He claimed to be an illuminati/Masonic member, who came from a long list of bloodline families. In that thread he divulges knowledge of a secretive nature. The name hidden-hand, was I believe, meant to signify activities by the PTB, which go on behind the scenes, unbeknown to everyday citizens.
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by Joecroft
...Hidden-hand was an ATS member, who created an infamous thread, entitled “Window of Opportunity”. If you click the link in my last post, it will take you directly to that thread. He claimed to be an illuminati/Masonic member, who came from a long list of bloodline families. In that thread he divulges knowledge of a secretive nature. The name hidden-hand, was I believe, meant to signify activities by the PTB, which go on behind the scenes, unbeknown to everyday citizens.
- JC
I read that thread (or - went a long way into it)...
Found it intriguing for a while, until, at some point, when all the "new" materials had been (apparently) exhausted, everything began to sound like a rehash of the "channeling" groups that abound.
None of that resonates with me (meaning - the "channelings"), though, it seems to have a fairly broad audience that take it as "the gospel truth".
If you are one of them - please excuse my rain.edit on 2/17/2013 by WanDash because: clarity (don't I wish)
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...Someone was channeling entities? Resumes available to all to check and verify. Sounds very confusing. Let me tell you something. If the information does not resonate with you it is not your truth; and there are many different truths out there for purusal, it doesnt mean they are wrong. Some Keys fit, some dont. I am sure for some that information was a welcome explaination for/of the unknown. I have to ask however was it in anyway Fear Based? The word HIDDEN within the name means it WAS.
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...Someone was channeling entities? Resumes available to all to check and verify. Sounds very confusing. Let me tell you something. If the information does not resonate with you it is not your truth; and there are many different truths out there for purusal, it doesnt mean they are wrong. Some Keys fit, some dont. I am sure for some that information was a welcome explaination for/of the unknown. I have to ask however was it in anyway Fear Based? The word HIDDEN within the name means it WAS.
HIDDEN-HAND - to my recollection, did not "proclaim" to be passing on "channeled" information. (Though - did state more than once that "The Law of One" materials were nearer the truth than almost anything-else, currently available.)
Rather, that HH had been reared from birth as one of the "ancient bloodline family members"...who are all held to the most rigid standards of "honor/allegience to family", and other more academic disciplines -- I don't recall, specifically, what HH's "discipline" was, but seem to think it had to do with "spirituality" (or - some such...).
Using the word "Fear", when asking if it was "Fear Based"...is kinda funny, as I recall... Seems that "Fear" (&/or Negativity) had a lot to do with the message. Being something like - "We are hoping that mankind will continue to grow more 'negative', as that is how we get to move on to our next-higher dimensional progression". Something about the "bloodlines" having stepped-down from a higher dimension to help out in a scenario where the world-overlord had taken its creation in "a bad" direction.
Will re-read it, if you want better/more information.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...Has HH been murdered yet or hung itself upon a symbolic cross death by suicide? Out of Dodge in the nick of time, as for some reason this really angers me.
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...Has HH been murdered yet or hung itself upon a symbolic cross death by suicide? Out of Dodge in the nick of time, as for some reason this really angers me.
I don't recall if HH was banned...or simply disappeared behind cloak and dagger.
His/Its deal was that - every so often, it was the duty (as in - contractual, if memory serves correctly) of one (or so) among "the families" to make a divulgence to humanity. He/It was too snooty to care if anyone of us/the lesser entities in attendance believed or not... "Just fulfilling the obligation" (as it were).
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...So his squadron bailed on him? Perhaps someone courtmartialed before he could create more disinformation havoc and basically, chaos. Got to know that science before start unraveling it, as it is by nature chaotic. Opps stepped in a pile of nuclear waste thoughtform that had half lives left.
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...So his squadron bailed on him? Perhaps someone courtmartialed before he could create more disinformation havoc and basically, chaos. Got to know that science before start unraveling it, as it is by nature chaotic. Opps stepped in a pile of nuclear waste thoughtform that had half lives left.
Could be... It seems, also, though, that HH let it be known, up front, that the opportunity for communicating with "him" would be brief...and once the obligation was complete, said window of opportunity would be closed (HH would not stoop back to communicating with the "mere" mortals on ATS).
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Where are they? Source Entity and Origin? Why have we been left alone for so long? Why the awful lingering silence and where are their mouthpieces? Is there no one in existance that speaks to them for them (other than the papal which is not viable) and can let the humble simple dumbed down human know its fate?edit on 9-12-2012 by vethumanbeing because: expand a simple concept into smithereen type purportions thus imploding itself into oblivion
Originally posted by Leuan
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Where are they? Source Entity and Origin? Why have we been left alone for so long? Why the awful lingering silence and where are their mouthpieces? Is there no one in existance that speaks to them for them (other than the papal which is not viable) and can let the humble simple dumbed down human know its fate?edit on 9-12-2012 by vethumanbeing because: expand a simple concept into smithereen type purportions thus imploding itself into oblivion
Ears to hear are needed for transmission..
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I am saying you would have to convince me I have a superior creator in spirit form. I know whom my physical parents are. I have no one other than myself to gage the reason for my existance for/to.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Source Entity was on the verge of unleashing a terrible thing manefested out of fear worse than all wars, famine strife combined; totally with out morals, empathy a masterbratory ACT of selfishness for its own power/gain.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Freemasons never divulge and they do not call themselves Masonic members. Why, they dispise the Water Buffalo Lodge kinship. I would have written Hidden Hand off as corrupted, disgruntled or a liar.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Not going to read it, make comments and accidently resurrect it WHAT A DISTRACTION.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Absolutely. Why do you think you are talking to me? There is a distant memory being reborn within you.
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...So his squadron bailed on him? Perhaps someone courtmartialed before he could create more disinformation havoc and basically, chaos. Got to know that science before start unraveling it, as it is by nature chaotic. Opps stepped in a pile of nuclear waste thoughtform that had half lives left.
Could be... It seems, also, though, that HH let it be known, up front, that the opportunity for communicating with "him" would be brief...and once the obligation was complete, said window of opportunity would be closed (HH would not stoop back to communicating with the "mere" mortals on ATS).
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
I am saying you would have to convince me I have a superior creator in spirit form. I know whom my physical parents are. I have no one other than myself to gage the reason for my existance for/to.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Source Entity was on the verge of unleashing a terrible thing manefested out of fear worse than all wars, famine strife combined; totally with out morals, empathy a masterbratory ACT of selfishness for its own power/gain.
joecroft
Can you describe this “Source Entity” in a bit more detail? It’s beginnings, place of origin…stuff of that nature etc…
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Freemasons never divulge and they do not call themselves Masonic members. Why, they dispise the Water Buffalo Lodge kinship. I would have written Hidden Hand off as corrupted, disgruntled or a liar.
joecroft
Yes I agree with you...for me, there were certain discrepancies in his testimony, which didn’t add up…you got to have a keen eye for that type of thing, which is where I come in!
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Not going to read it, make comments and accidently resurrect it WHAT A DISTRACTION.
joecroft
Completely agree with you, we are on the same page, and are no doubt reading from the same book.
I did not mean to derail this thread with talk of hidden-hand. The parallel I was drawing was far simpler, in that you both want to reveal truths. The measure of those truths and how correct one is, over the other, was not the parallel I was making.
In fact, you are clearly a lot different, in that you are not seeking a huge audience, which kind of adds more weight to your unique perspective IMO.
Originally posted by Vethumanbeing
Absolutely. Why do you think you are talking to me? There is a distant memory being reborn within you.
joecroft
Regarding the dimensions; is 13d the highest stature/realm? Because if it is, then wouldn’t that make you the equivalent of an Arc Angel?
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
......I wrote the script, much like you did before you became human to then at once forget it; and this is where Free Will applies its majick. If you know the outcome, you WILL by your nature alter it. I basically trick myself in the desperate (manipulating energy/architype) moments to not wander from or change my script. One way I do it is to not recognise what I am doing until after the fact, then it becomes a WHEW,,narrowly escaped my own outwitting.
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
......I wrote the script, much like you did before you became human to then at once forget it; and this is where Free Will applies its majick. If you know the outcome, you WILL by your nature alter it. I basically trick myself in the desperate (manipulating energy/architype) moments to not wander from or change my script. One way I do it is to not recognise what I am doing until after the fact, then it becomes a WHEW,,narrowly escaped my own outwitting.
The notion of having "chosen" one's life-path prior to birth has been a perplexity of mine for a while, now.
Whether "I" wrote it, or "God" wrote it...or...Someone-Else scripted it -- it remains a frustrating & puzzling possibility.
Seems you can hear this "message" in many songs...and makes one wonder "why" the theme would be so widely accepted.
It seems that you are saying that the script should go unaltered...to achieve the best conclusion (?). Or, perhaps, that is only an option if the individual (human) somehow awakens-to, or recalls "how it's supposed to go".
Makes one wonder at how this could possibly play out...with so many different "scripts" being written...by different "players"...and...with "Free Will" thrown into the mix (for good measure - I guess).
Yes - this is perplexing...for me.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...The only way the script goes unaltered is if you realize while in this life the fact you wrote the script before becoming human again, (that is if you are reincarnated and not a new soul/spirit). The reason for this is to negatate Karma buildup from past lives lived, balancing all of them out...It is a dance your soul plays, in one life wearing the white hat in another the black hat. Your soul must progress, and this Earth 3d experience is the best school ever for that experience as it is the fastest and most emotionally intense. The average soul has at least 500 past life experiences, and you correct the last one with the present one. I have noticed this theme is prevalent within the last 10 years, and there are some groans happenning regarding the softness (not melancholy but just a sort of "giving up" by singers and songwriters? For me I apprieciate the anger of hard core, speed metal, and the experimental composers of the early 20th century; a fine one describing 'ordered' Chaos at full throtle (it does have order) is Eric Satie. The opposite would be Bach Fugues fully controlled music of the mathmatical universe.
Make no mistake, God did not script your life as you know it You did. Free Will, well that explains the Lucifer quotient as in it was his bright idea, to monkey wrench the process (cannot fault him).
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...The only way the script goes unaltered is if you realize while in this life the fact you wrote the script before becoming human again, (that is if you are reincarnated and not a new soul/spirit). The reason for this is to negatate Karma buildup from past lives lived, balancing all of them out...It is a dance your soul plays, in one life wearing the white hat in another the black hat. Your soul must progress, and this Earth 3d experience is the best school ever for that experience as it is the fastest and most emotionally intense. The average soul has at least 500 past life experiences, and you correct the last one with the present one. I have noticed this theme is prevalent within the last 10 years, and there are some groans happenning regarding the softness (not melancholy but just a sort of "giving up" by singers and songwriters? For me I apprieciate the anger of hard core, speed metal, and the experimental composers of the early 20th century; a fine one describing 'ordered' Chaos at full throtle (it does have order) is Eric Satie. The opposite would be Bach Fugues fully controlled music of the mathmatical universe.
Make no mistake, God did not script your life as you know it You did. Free Will, well that explains the Lucifer quotient as in it was his bright idea, to monkey wrench the process (cannot fault him).
Haven't been a huge fan of speed metal...though I do appreciate it. Kinda like I wouldn't buy any of Michael Jackson's albums...but recognize him as a brilliant artist. Saw Judas Priest in '79 or '80 and was thoroughly impressed.
Chaos & the Mathematical Universe... A contradiction in terms...?
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
......I wrote the script, much like you did before you became human to then at once forget it; and this is where Free Will applies its majick. If you know the outcome, you WILL by your nature alter it. I basically trick myself in the desperate (manipulating energy/architype) moments to not wander from or change my script. One way I do it is to not recognise what I am doing until after the fact, then it becomes a WHEW,,narrowly escaped my own outwitting.
The notion of having "chosen" one's life-path prior to birth has been a perplexity of mine for a while, now.
Whether "I" wrote it, or "God" wrote it...or...Someone-Else scripted it -- it remains a frustrating & puzzling possibility.
Seems you can hear this "message" in many songs...and makes one wonder "why" the theme would be so widely accepted.
It seems that you are saying that the script should go unaltered...to achieve the best conclusion (?). Or, perhaps, that is only an option if the individual (human) somehow awakens-to, or recalls "how it's supposed to go".
Makes one wonder at how this could possibly play out...with so many different "scripts" being written...by different "players"...and...with "Free Will" thrown into the mix (for good measure - I guess).
Yes - this is perplexing...for me.
The only way the script goes unaltered is if you realize while in this life the fact you wrote the script before becoming human again, (that is if you are reincarnated and not a new soul/spirit). The reason for this is to negatate Karma buildup from past lives lived, balancing all of them out...It is a dance your soul plays, in one life wearing the white hat in another the black hat. Your soul must progress, and this Earth 3d experience is the best school ever for that experience as it is the fastest and most emotionally intense. The average soul has at least 500 past life experiences, and you correct the last one with the present one. I have noticed this theme is prevalent within the last 10 years, and there are some groans happenning regarding the softness (not melancholy but just a sort of "giving up" by singers and songwriters? For me I apprieciate the anger of hard core, speed metal, and the experimental composers of the early 20th century; a fine one describing 'ordered' Chaos at full throtle (it does have order) is Eric Satie. The opposite would be Bach Fugues fully controlled music of the mathmatical universe.
Make no mistake, God did not script your life as you know it You did. Free Will, well that explains the Lucifer quotient as in it was his bright idea, to monkey wrench the process (cannot fault him).edit on 19-2-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Make no mistake, God did not script your life as you know it You did. Free Will, well that explains the Lucifer quotient as in it was his bright idea, to monkey wrench the process (cannot fault him).edit on 19-2-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
Standing at the precipice, all intent of using the 'solid-er state' to correct the balance is 'hutt, hutt, hutt' gung ho...it's mortifying for this scenario to be presented to the parents of a dying child...that the child somehow chose the experience goes against all 'supposed' common sense...but, not really when addressing the mission scenario of the soul...as VHB has said it...make no mistake...
The 'denizens', still bound by 'local' and 'global' conditions (enter lightbringer) have always needed to adapt (it's in the blueprint that adapts)...instant illumination, holus bolus, is contrary to the FREE WILL rulebook gameplay - so, no coersion there...instead...Adam sixpack and his wayward other half, were promised something that couldn't be given without consequence, got fooled by the glitzy advert...'bought' the duality soporific, and human has been trying (in between non-3D state) to remember ever since...
A99