You will get the greatest impact and message from this thread if you pause and listen to the chapters as you go. If not, most of what is in this
thread will be lost on you as you go.
Psalm 47 (LISTEN AUDIO)
God reigns over the nations;
God is seated on his holy throne.
9 The nobles of the nations assemble
as the people of the God of Abraham,
for the kings[c] of the earth belong to God;
he is greatly exalted.
Restoration of the nations to God happens in 2017 when "Praise the Lord" is restored fully. Notice how short Psalm 117 is. Consult this thread on the
Jubilee year of 2017. Jubilee Timeline
Also, Psalm 111-119 and the Seven Trumpets
1 Praise the Lord, all you nations;
extol him, all you peoples.
2 For great is his love toward us,
and the faithfulness of the Lord endures forever.
Praise the Lord.
Isaiah 34 AUDIO
This is then a description of various nations and the aftermath of nuclear war. This is how the nations will end, yet the remnant will come back.
Involution and Evolution
is a process of rising and falling. The fall reveals the
gold that is left when the fire burns away the chaff that have not prepared to survive the fire. You must be born again.
Gospel of the Nazarenes (Lection 88)
12. For by involution and evolution shall the salvation of all the world be accomplished: by the Descent of Spirit into matter, and the Ascent of
matter into Spirit through the ages.
Isaiah 43 AUDIO
This chapter is a message to 'the nation' that is called out of the nations (Believers in Christ) that other nations (Wicked) will be traded in
exchange for those who followed the leading of the Lord's voice. He reveals the nature of revelation and shows the mark of the ones that followed out
of the nations to become a new nation unto the Lord. He reveals that we are witnesses in a trial against the Enemy. Those who follow the wrong voice
are charged with the crime, yet those who follow the advocate have their ransom paid. The key is giving and taking. Those who give are marked by
Christ. Those who take and reject God are marked for destruction.
Jeremiah 6 AUDIO
In this chapter of Israel under siege, we see again that the 'nations' are witnesses to what will happen in Israel. God has tried in vain to refine
the wicked nation of Israel. Why did God pick them? I believe that they were His greatest challenge. By showing what happens to a wicked people, some
are saved, but the nations that witness this will mostly all be saved by the sight. The refinement process that is listed is comparable to Deuteronomy
4:19-20. In the end, even Israel is refined to salvation. They must pass through the fire. The rest of the righteous that will proceed them are
refined by water. Water puts out fire. Consult Matthew 3 to see who receives the baptism of repentance and who receives the baptism of fire.
Jeremiah 31 AUDIO
Ephraim is listed as "My first born Son." I think this is the nation of America as God's first nation of freedom.
See This Thread for More
We are the example to the nations of Freedom and also of what arises from walking away from God. Tyranny is the result. Israel has followed this
example somewhat, but then turned away from freedom. America starts the decline the same direction and then Israel is an example of what happens when
they wander. Jeremiah 31 speaks of a day beyond the sword on Israel. This is what proceeds the 1000 years of peace when Freedom for the people rises
“I have surely heard Ephraim’s moaning:
‘You disciplined me like an unruly calf,
and I have been disciplined.
Restore me, and I will return,
because you are the Lord my God.
Then He say:
22 How long will you wander,
unfaithful Daughter Israel?
The Lord will create a new thing on earth—
the woman will return to the man.”
The Spirit will return to mankind after abandoning it for a time. This is when the restrainer leaves.
Listen to 2 Thessalonians 2 On this Topic
If you read the rest of Jeremiah 31 closely, you see a time when the righteous fruit is planted all around the nations. This is a time when the
righteous are born throughout every land with the WORD planted in their hearts. Those who were wicked will spring up within this forest of goodness to
learn the same lessons of righteousness. The Saints become the leaders and the wicked become their sons to be raised. We repeat the process of the Son
of God in the land raising children. The punishment for eating sour grapes then rests on those who eat only and not on the nations of the Earth as
before. Healing comes by allowing the Spirit to rule the Earth as the man and woman are brought together. This is the two becoming one (Soul and
Spirit). It is the same as the proton and electron becoming balanced again around the neutron. This is where Hydrogen starts in the Star. As it
exits and becomes the elements, it is formed around the neutron and proton (Father and Son). The Spirit is then symbolized by the electron, which is
the brought back in. Apart from an understanding of physics, this may be missed. Realize that all of nature proclaims the glory of the Lord.
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19
since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible
qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without
Why such wrath from God? This is what the refinement of an eternal soul demands as a Child raised by God. Unless we experience infinity, we are
always a prodigal son that rolls around in the mud. Love brings us back into a right relationship to the Father. This is the ONLY way salvation from
the error and peace can follow. The error is the opposite polarity of goodness that must exist for free will to be present. Apart from free will, we
are automatons of God. With free will, truth can set us free. It can also bring fire on us by our own choices. Ultimately, the fire is the work of
our hands as God then brings us back into the light and safety of truth.
If you are interested in more, consult the link in my signature or the threads from the past. Salvation is a gift that is free, yet requires your
heart to change. Faith is reaching out to God for that process to begin. God is the refiner and He has his hands opened wide to those who choose
love over the law of sin and death. It's always a choice to reach for the fruit of error or to enjoy the fruit God gives freely.
65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”
66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
67 “You do not want to leave too, do you?” Jesus asked the Twelve.
68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 We have come to believe and to know that you are the
Holy One of God.”
70 Then Jesus replied, “Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!” 71 (He meant Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, who, though
one of the Twelve, was later to betray him.)
God knows us all clearly:
23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name.[d] 24 But Jesus would
not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. 25 He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.
Consult this thread for more of the process God uses to refine mankind.
This is, of course, my interpretation of scripture. You will find many. In the end, we can only look back to connect the dots. Feel free to express
your view as well. We are all blind men describing fire.
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