How did Gautama Buddha reach Enlightenment (Nirvana)?

Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
yeah, I don't think so.

That is just more mumbo jumbo meant to keep people in a mental limbo.

We lack nothing.

edit on 8-12-2012 by zedVSzardoz because: (no reason given)

There is nothing lacking in oneness. But the mind believes there is something lacking because it believes there is more.

Originally posted by prevenge

Originally posted by TauNorthwolf

According to the scriptures Gotama Buddha reached enlightenment after 49 days below the pipal tree. Before him there had been endless Buddhas and after him will be endless Buddhas. Everybody can develop the Buddha nature and become a Buddha after a certain time. What do you think about enlightenmend? Is it attainable? Or will it be like in the scriptures where it has been said that there will be as many lifes as leaves on a tree till freedom found? Siddhis are mystical powers but Buddha said they shouldn't be seeked for, still people try to attain them. Ego trip? Mara was apparently no real Demon like many people want to believe, but the final stance of the ego in the own mind. What are your thoughts?

Enlightenment

through raising his bio-electric lifeforce up his spine to activate his pineal therefore his entire endocrine gland system and their accompannying nerve ganglia (chakras) to initiate a physio-spiritual metamorphosis.
this was accomplished via cultivating his sexual energy and pulling it up his spine.
through sacred matrimonial communion and a variety of yogic proactices.

I love it when people explain it in a scientifficlly biologicly specific way . Spirit over mind over body or as in the later stages all in perfect harmony/symbiosis but that is harder to achive and I clearly have to work in that.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


there is nothing lacking in not having your version of oneness. The mind goes insane trying to justify its destination.

Instead of continuing its journey.

Finite "I have reached enlightenment in oneness" VS the fluid " I will seek truth in all its forms"

One leads to lies of justification and delusion, the other leads to pure truth.

Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

The mind goes insane trying to justify its destination.

Instead of continuing its journey.

The mind is insane. It believes there is a journey with a goal at the end.
Has it found the beginning yet?

reply to post by Itisnowagain


that is just double talk.

You are purposefully ignoring the meaning.

Good bye Roman.

Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

Finite "I have reached enlightenment in oneness" VS the fluid " I will seek truth in all its forms"

No one can reach enlightenment. There is no one in oneness.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


exactly

it is more akin to the road (journey) than the many destinations...

Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

that is just double talk.

You are purposefully ignoring the meaning.

Good bye Roman.

It is the mind that fears it's demise. The mind stays alive by believing in time.
When presence (oneness) is found to be all, there is no room for the mind (time) made individual.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


time is yet another preconception of reality. A mind killer.

EDIT:

So is a false destination or in other words, a false preconception of oneness.

Gautama did not reach enlightenment, he became enligtened. Enlightenment is not a process culminating in a final step. It is an event that takes no time.

reply to post by Observor

- Not really, traditionally speaking it's a process of many lifetimes and "a developmental process" that is stressed strongly, see Dhammapada. Forget the new age western reinterpretations proposed by D.T. Suzuki or Ken WIlber's popularizing the idea of insight being a timeless, transcendent reality. See also the Thervada's seven stages of purification which are a difficult process as well. Do read the Lotos Sutra or check here for a starter.

There are many suggested paths for them

Sure there are but they have been discouraged.

Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

time is yet another preconception of reality. A mind killer.

Time is an idea - a concept. It is always the present if one notices.

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so is anything. so?

reply to post by TauNorthwolf


Enlightenment is now. The idea of time makes you believe there is another time when it will happen - but the happening is happening now.

Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

so is anything. so?

This is.
Sorry i must apologize for your confusing post.
I answered 'is anything so?'

But i see that you mean everything is a concept. Things are concepts yes.
What this is, that is here now, is not a concept.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by LittleByLittle

.Not all enlightened people are harmonious all the time or even egoless. And sometimes they build an ego back to be able to be like their surrounding and not feel to different.

There are no enlightened 'people' (people is plural).
Enlightenment is the realization of oneness.

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They still have separate minds and bodies while being alive here even if they are connected to the Oneness and understand that they are part of the oneness. Two cells of the body is still two different cells even if they are connected in the same body and is working for the good of the body and not just their own single cell.

Many people say that the whole and the part is the same thing but it is not from my point of view. You can experiance the whole as a part being connected to the whole but you are still a part of the whole and not the whole as long as you are in a separate body.

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"Now" is just another name for a state of time.

True enlightenment IMO has nothing to do with that,

It is a state of mind. A state of being, and a way.

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that is more double talk. Meaningless.

I will not search for meaning to that which you wish to say. I will only search for meaning to that which I wish to say. I search to express myself truly, not to make you feel truly understood.

Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

"Now" is just another name for a state of time.

True enlightenment IMO has nothing to do with that,

It is a state of mind. A state of being, and a way.

edit on 8-12-2012 by zedVSzardoz because: (no reason given)

This is being. This is being all there is.
But the mind does not believe it so seeks for more.

Originally posted by LittleByLittle

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by LittleByLittle

.Not all enlightened people are harmonious all the time or even egoless. And sometimes they build an ego back to be able to be like their surrounding and not feel to different.

There are no enlightened 'people' (people is plural).
Enlightenment is the realization of oneness.

edit on 8-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)

They still have separate minds and bodies while being alive here even if they are connected to the Oneness and understand that they are part of the oneness. Two cells of the body is still two different cells even if they are connected in the same body and is working for the good of the body and not just their own single cell.

Many people say that the whole and the part is the same thing but it is not from my point of view. You can experiance the whole as a part being connected to the whole but you are still a part of the whole and not the whole as long as you are in a separate body.

You believe you are separate so you see separateness.

Energy is moving. That's it.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


I don't think so.

We search when we have a will to do so. When we stop, we wait for death as it may come.

accepting mortality and trying anyways by cultivating our will, our resolve, makes life worth living.

What you aspire to is just to find a comfy seat while you wait.

I will keep my boots on thank you.