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Originally posted by burdman30ott6
I do argue that they will recieve it back at the end of the year. Furthermore, the top 10% of earners in the US pay 70% of all taxes. The top 50%
(ie: the middle class and up) pay 98% of all taxes. That means half of America pays 2% of taxes at the end of the year.
Now you know full well that this spin addresses only
FICA and not actual taxation. Everybody pays taxes. The myth that the bottom 49% do not is
just that. A myth. I have been both wealthy and poor during my life and don't ever recall getting an ad velorum or sales tax refund check. Wealthier
people pay property taxes, but also get write-offs on their property - whereas renters ( which most of the poor are ) get no credits for being
Originally posted by burdman30ott6
Perspective may cause it to appear like the laborer making minimum wage is building an empire upon their backs, but the reality is there's nothing
keeping that worker from bettering themselves and finding a better paying job aside from their own, self-inflicted limitations.
In some cases this is true. In others not so. There is an implication to this logic that only winners win and only losers lose... that it was all fair
at the beginning and self-determination was the only factor. These are patently false assumptions. For some, the starting line is way ahead of where
others begin their race at. And some are born without the ability to run the race as well, or at all. We all love to read those stories about
self-made people who overcame the odds and has vast success despite of diversity. But the reason we love those stories is their rareness.
3. Still, the question remains, how does the mere status of success and wealth warrant the "fairness" of the government demand higher and
higher dowries from the middle and upper incomes of the nation? How is it justifiable and "fair" (I love using that word because it is absolutely
bullcrap. The mere nature of taxation, forcible separation of a man from the fruits of his personal labor is as opposed to the conept of "fairness" as
promiscuity is apart from abstinence.) to expect anyone to hand over their sweat and tears to be redistributed to those who do not provide for
themselves? How did we arrive at this time and age in which the parable of the grasshopper and the ant has gone from a valued lesson in hard work,
self sufficiency, and honor to a detestable lesson of greed and elitism?
I'm genuinely interested in an answer to this because every way I attempt to turn my head to see things in the same manner as the "increase taxes"
crowd, I only see greed and envy buttressed by some sort of feeling of entitlement to claim the property of another.
I make no argument against the notion that success and determination should be rewarded. A guy who works 60 hours a week should
prosperous than his co-worker who only works 30 hours does. The problem I have is when the concept of equity ( fairness ) becomes a one sided
One cannot say "I worked harder and earned my position, therefore it's fair
that I make 100 million per year, where others, who also work, just
as often, can make as little as $11,000.00 per year" and then
turn around and say "Don't play the 'fair' card on me!" when it comes to taxes.
The whole argument is very disingenuous. It's like an adult couple kicking their infant out of the house for not pulling his own weight and paying 1/3
of the bills. Cherry picked positions always possess this flaw.
The thing that strikes me the most about the new "right" is that they don't understand the machine and the way it works. Guess what happens when Rush
Limbaugh gets his dream and all social programs and the minimum wage are abolished?
The entire economy dies. The rich suffer because their upstream of income is cut off at the source.
This reality almost, almost
makes me wish that the right could have their way. If so many people wouldn't perish in the process of it, I'd
honestly shut my mouth and just sit back and watch as the whole darned thing came crashing down and the greediest of the greedy were left saying
"Wait... why didn't my profit margins grow at the usual 13.8% this month?"
The propagandists have done an excellent job here. They've convinced the middle to turn against the bottom - and actually play bodyguard for
them. It's amazing to behold. When you get to the hen house... remember, The fox with the yolk running down his face didn't get your eggs. Must have
been the sheep over there that did.
edit on 12/7/12 by Hefficide because: (no reason given)