reply to post by Hefficide
A very deep and broad conversation indeed. I could feel the gears grinding.
I will try and keep my response as condensed as possible as it could be very easy to go off on a tangent.
Let me begin by stating my belief that humans animal instincts are part of our subconscious and only through rational though these behaviors are
controls. I see religion as being instituted not to eliminate these baser instincts but to harness and direct them, which you have somewhat alluded
Religion in my eyes was and still is used to direct the masses on a, relatively speaking, progressive path. Be kind, help others, thou shalt not kill,
thou shalt no steal, etc etc. All tenants to ensure social stability.
Come to think of it, religion was a brilliant tool to reign in our urges with the prospect of eternal damnation.
Now to touch on the duality portion of your thought.
Religion in my eyes capitalized on human intelligence to rationalize their environment’s, opposed to animals which cannot, to allow for social and
dare I say spiritual development. In the process of this institutionalization, I believe some came realize that our animalistic tendencies for
conflict could not be completely quelled by virtuous tenants and threats of damnation. Thus, I believe this gave birth to the practice of religious
conflict to embrace that portion of human nature. Why not allow an outlet for the animalistic behavior and be able to gain from it. Expansion of
To draw this to modern times, instead of religion, we have government and we can see many parallels between what religion did for people and what
government did. I see many similarities.
To wrap up, hopefully I stayed on point, I would like to say our current stage of evolution has required this duality and nature may selects to
eliminate one of these sides, whether it be the animalistic side or the intellectual/rational side I am unable to say.
Stepping back and looking at the big picture we seem to degenerating back into a species that relies on these “feral” behaviors, that favor
personal gain and domination.