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Originally posted by Logos23
Originally posted by StaceyWilson
Now the DJS are in SAFE HOUSES and the Royal Regime is in full swing
Death threats from south australian loyalists saying the DJs have a bullet with their name on it ,
The royals can just back da fac up ! Their pride was hurt , now they think they can teach us some manners aye gov na ?
WHO THE HELL GOES TO HOSPITAL CUZ OF A BIT OF MORNIN SICKNESS , OF COURSE YOUR GONNA GET A JIBBING
HERES my OPINION ! I HATE THE ROYAL FAMILY FOR THIS , ASIO KNOWS WHATS GOING ON ,AND THEY ARE PROTECTING THIER OWN , gO iRELAND !,
......because you and people like you are always going to let your personal feelings and hatred cloud common sense!
Originally posted by AussieDingus
Originally posted by Logos23
Originally posted by StaceyWilson
Now the DJS are in SAFE HOUSES and the Royal Regime is in full swing
Death threats from south australian loyalists saying the DJs have a bullet with their name on it ,
The royals can just back da fac up ! Their pride was hurt , now they think they can teach us some manners aye gov na ?
WHO THE HELL GOES TO HOSPITAL CUZ OF A BIT OF MORNIN SICKNESS , OF COURSE YOUR GONNA GET A JIBBING
HERES my OPINION ! I HATE THE ROYAL FAMILY FOR THIS , ASIO KNOWS WHATS GOING ON ,AND THEY ARE PROTECTING THIER OWN , gO iRELAND !,
......because you and people like you are always going to let your personal feelings and hatred cloud common sense!
Yet this is the very thing you have done in accusing me of being arrogant just for providing an example to someone's claims that i knew nothing about suicide or its affects, which you in your emotional state mistakenly took for arrogance. So i'm allowed to be accused of something that isn't true, but if i provide an example to show why the accusation isn't true, then i'm the arrogant one. Practice what you preach, because you seem to like to talk a big game, but you seem to have little intentions of backing it up !
Originally posted by Flavian
Originally posted by AussieDingus
The DJ's should get no sympathy, or blame, the woman that committed suicide should get no sympathy and majority blame, and her remaining family should get full sympathy and no blame. What is so hard about that to accept ?
Mostly agree with this but you have missed the station out and yes, they played a huge role in all of this and by airing without consent must shoulder a huge chunk of blame for what it lead to.
I would stop short of saying that they were responsible for her death but at the time it cannot be ignored that if they had followed legal guidelines, this could all have been prevented. They are both the catalyst and, to an extent, the instigator.
Which is why on the various threads i have kept banging on about the inept legal department they must have.
Originally posted by Logos23
Originally posted by AussieDingus
Originally posted by Logos23
Originally posted by StaceyWilson
Now the DJS are in SAFE HOUSES and the Royal Regime is in full swing
Death threats from south australian loyalists saying the DJs have a bullet with their name on it ,
The royals can just back da fac up ! Their pride was hurt , now they think they can teach us some manners aye gov na ?
WHO THE HELL GOES TO HOSPITAL CUZ OF A BIT OF MORNIN SICKNESS , OF COURSE YOUR GONNA GET A JIBBING
HERES my OPINION ! I HATE THE ROYAL FAMILY FOR THIS , ASIO KNOWS WHATS GOING ON ,AND THEY ARE PROTECTING THIER OWN , gO iRELAND !,
......because you and people like you are always going to let your personal feelings and hatred cloud common sense!
Yet this is the very thing you have done in accusing me of being arrogant just for providing an example to someone's claims that i knew nothing about suicide or its affects, which you in your emotional state mistakenly took for arrogance. So i'm allowed to be accused of something that isn't true, but if i provide an example to show why the accusation isn't true, then i'm the arrogant one. Practice what you preach, because you seem to like to talk a big game, but you seem to have little intentions of backing it up !
What's the problem? I didn't reply to your last response so you thought you would try further bait? God forbid you would let an argument die?
There is a good reason I didn't reply to your post prior to this one.....you post really long posts and for ever change the goal posts because you just like arguing for arguing sake...I do not.
Let's just accept we both made points we wanted to make and just move on eh? Because contrary to your belief I was at no point then and now in any emotional state and am quite capable of walking away and letting this go....are you?
Originally posted by Logos23
reply to post by AussieDingus
I am not going to quote any of your posts because it would take up too much room.
But even when it is pointed to you you are wrong about the media coverage prior to her death you change your stance and say it was nowhere near the same as after her suicide....yep we all know that, even I admitted that. But the fact remains it WAS big news prior to her death, both here in the UK and other places around the world. Infact places like America and Australia sent their own news teams to the UK to cover the story PRIOR to her death.
You stated that no one would have known about this thing if she didn't commit suicide.....you were grossly wrong. It was on our own news stations all day....I saw the news story all day so I know this for fact. I purely checked youtube to see if there was recorded evidence of the news segments about it both in the UK and the US and Australia prior to her death if others wanted to see evidence of that......and there is.
As for taking the moral high ground concerning those who have ever felt led to take their own life and passing judgement on them....shame on you!
Are you arrogant enough to believe you are the only person on this thread who has experience of someone close to them committing suicide? Because that's how your challenges come across.....
I can say one thing.....don't presume to know all about anyone's full circumstances and frame of mind....even if it is a best friend...that again is arrogant.
I would say that most people who do go to those extreme aren't always thinking rationally.....when someone is in that frame of mind judging them by rational way's of thinking is pointless! But to state these events can be used to show people they should think about their family and friends and be more considerate about the person who will find their body etc SHOWS your lack of understanding. Most people who come to that place, feel there is absolutely no other option for them, even if that seems irrational to others.This is why i say you can't judge irrational thinkers by rational standards....it's just not possible!
What as bothered me most about what you have said is stating that only weak people end their own lives....I could argue with that, but there is no point because you seem to feel you have the authority on the psychology behind the act. But either way, this world is made up of different people...some stronger than others and some weaker than others.Are you seriously suggesting the weak ones should be held in contempt and are less worthy of our compassion?
Originally posted by StaceyWilson
reply to post by Logos23
gov nah is a pommy expression , lol,
The nurse who committed suicide after the royal hoax phone call left a note telling the two DJs behind the prank they were responsible for her death, according to sources close to the family.
In one of three apparent suicide notes, Jacintha Saldanha wrote a short letter in which she expressed her deep anger at the Australian radio presenters and blamed them for her tragic death.
The Mail on Sunday understands that one of the DJs telephoned the hospital back within an hour of the call and spoke to Ms Saldanha again, telling her they had played a prank which they were about to broadcast.
The revelation is believed to have left Ms Saldanha, who had no experience of dealing with the media, feeling confused and agitated.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by StaceyWilson
reply to post by Logos23
gov nah is a pommy expression , lol,
Only in the London of Dick Van Dyke.
Originally posted by AussieDingus
My best friend killed himself because he went home drunk, had an argument with his partner and in the heat of the argument he said he'd rather kill himself then be with her anymore. She replied that he didn't have the balls to do it. He then went out and killed himself to prove her wrong. BUT, even though he was my best mate, what he did was WRONG, and just because he was my best mate doesn't change the fact that what he did was wrong. I never had and have never since had any sympathy for him what so ever due to HIS decision,
Originally posted by StaceyWilson
reply to post by Logos23
LOL, Typical pom , Royals are stupid reptiles , Incestuous , and Evil , gov nah is a pommy expression , lol, You stupid poms cant handle a simple aussie joke than go blame the radio ,for what , injuring and fooling the stupid poms lol, Royals killed Diana , Happy Diamond Jubillee QUEEN SLUT !lol
Originally posted by Logos23
reply to post by AussieDingus
It made more sense to post what i said because you seemed unable to grasp what if anything I accused you of. My first accusation was that you "came across" as arrogant in some of your posting which is only subjective ( look up the definition) It was an opinion....but as you have plenty of opinions yourself I'm pretty sure I'm entitled to mine.
The only real accusation I made was that it was arrogant to presume you knew everything surrounding the reasons why your friend committed suicide and that you knew everything about your friends state of mind.......being his friend doesn't automatically qualify you for being the authority on either.
You seem unable to go back and read your own words so I will quote them for you ...my accusation as outlined above was in response to this......
Originally posted by AussieDingus
My best friend killed himself because he went home drunk, had an argument with his partner and in the heat of the argument he said he'd rather kill himself then be with her anymore. She replied that he didn't have the balls to do it. He then went out and killed himself to prove her wrong. BUT, even though he was my best mate, what he did was WRONG, and just because he was my best mate doesn't change the fact that what he did was wrong. I never had and have never since had any sympathy for him what so ever due to HIS decision,
I would like to think that this now clears up the matter......but I expect nothing more than another brick wall response from you.
This is getting tiresome...there are other conversations more worthy of my time and response. If you fail to once again understand what my accusation was and what is was in response to.... that is your problem not mine.
Originally posted by Watershed
Originally posted by StaceyWilson
reply to post by Logos23
LOL, Typical pom , Royals are stupid reptiles , Incestuous , and Evil , gov nah is a pommy expression , lol, You stupid poms cant handle a simple aussie joke than go blame the radio ,for what , injuring and fooling the stupid poms lol, Royals killed Diana , Happy Diamond Jubillee QUEEN SLUT !lol
Typical moronic breadthieves - no sense of humour (this prank wasn't funny). Let's try and think of famous Oz comedians, well there's that bloke who dresses up like an old lady and Paul Ho... on second thoughts, let's not. The point has been made that you have to be some special sort of stupid to make a prank call to a hospital.
Originally posted by Watershed
Typical moronic breadthieves - no sense of humour (this prank wasn't funny). Let's try and think of famous Oz comedians, well there's that bloke who dresses up like an old lady and Paul Ho... on second thoughts, let's not. The point has been made that you have to be some special sort of stupid to make a prank call to a hospital.