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How did Prop 37 in California lose? Fraud and a conspiracy uncovered!

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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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www.carighttoknow.org...

In the above link you will find a plethora of misuses of information and outright fraud commited by the "No prop 37" campaign. Is this what TPTB use in order to get what they want? How DID in fact prop 37 actually lose? What was the peoples argument for voting no on 37?

Please post concerning those in support of 37 and especially those that would've voted No on 37. Any conspiracy theories as to HOW prop 37 lost are welcome as well.




posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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My contribution to this would have to be that Monsanto has been lobbying many politicians in congress, even California, donating generous amounts in hoping to mainstream their advertising for their GMO products. Monsanto has many politicians in their pockets.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 10:58 PM
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People were fed "research" that genmod food is safe and still natural. I had people coming to my door to talk to me about it. That and a thousand (exaggeration) flyers in my mail box.

Their main argument was that it would fiscally impact the state budget and more cuts would have to be made from schools, police, etc. to recover from the impact prop 37 would create. It was mostly a fiscal scare tactic like most everything else they were putting up for a vote.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Rubicant13
My contribution to this would have to be that Monsanto has been lobbying many politicians in congress, even California, donating generous amounts in hoping to mainstream their advertising for their GMO products. Monsanto has many politicians in their pockets.


Yes, but this was a vote by the people. And it's my understanding that it was overwhelmingly defeated. I can't figure out how or why! Any insight?



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by foodstamp

Originally posted by Rubicant13
My contribution to this would have to be that Monsanto has been lobbying many politicians in congress, even California, donating generous amounts in hoping to mainstream their advertising for their GMO products. Monsanto has many politicians in their pockets.


Yes, but this was a vote by the people. And it's my understanding that it was overwhelmingly defeated. I can't figure out how or why! Any insight?


I have a theory: Where money changes hands, there is bound to be deception. I have wondered if voter fraud had happened over many different things in the past election.
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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by Echo3Foxtrot
People were fed "research" that genmod food is safe and still natural. I had people coming to my door to talk to me about it. That and a thousand (exaggeration) flyers in my mail box.

Their main argument was that it would fiscally impact the state budget and more cuts would have to be made from schools, police, etc. to recover from the impact prop 37 would create. It was mostly a fiscal scare tactic like most everything else they were putting up for a vote.


That's a shame! Other countries do it without a problem. People shoulda done their research. They may have just signed their own death warrant.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:03 PM
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Probably for the same reason they voted for Prop 30.

I have found that the majority of my neighbors are low information voters. I'm not trying to be mean, but many do not have informed opinions. It's not even a liberal/conservative either. I can respect an opposing position and understand their reasoning, and still believe they're wrong.

So I was talking to a fellow conservative about this and she said, "It will increase the cost of food."

I looked at her and asked, "Why do you believe that?"

She stated that they would have to make special labels for California. I politely explained that wasn't true. As with car emissions, California sets the consumer standards (most vehicles built are compliant with CA emission laws). In short all labels around the country would have GMO labels if they had a multi-state distribution facility. Things like Coca-Cola wouldn't do that (since they have bottling plants in many states), so in those cases things made local in CA would only have it.

Unfortunately her position was that of the commercial.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:07 PM
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Jeesus with the freakin Mafia running the voting machine companies......
I wonder if any vote can be bought?
Very likely wouldnt you think?
There is no real demoocracy left.
Just corruption



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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These graphics are so handy..




posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
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Probably for the same reason they voted for Prop 30.


What was prop 30 about?

I hear ya on the low information voters. It's scary to think these people take about 5 minutes to make a decision on amendments to our state constitutions. It makes me sick really. I thought the proposals for my state were more important than voting for president.
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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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It was raising the sales tax and income tax for the "wealthy". If there was honesty in advertising the pro-Prop 30 crowd would have had the governor pointing a gun at the head of a school child and saying, "If you don't raise taxes the kid gets it!"

The whole thing was predicated on disaster befalling education if we don't pay up.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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These graphics are so handy..




Can you give the source for this please?



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by iwilliam

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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These graphics are so handy..




Can you give the source for this please?


It's www.geke.us.

It says so right on the picture. Heh



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Can you give the source for this please?

Source


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I would say it lost because of the amount of money that was spent by the side opposing this proposition. That and people were scared into thinking that food prices would skyrocket.


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Food, biotech and chemical companies have spent over $45 million on the No on 37 campaign, and 93% of that money has come from out of state. Natural food companies and other supporters have spent over $8 million on the Yes on 37 campaign, most of it also coming from out of state.


Here's what the information on the voting ballot looked like.

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Requires labeling of food sold to consumers made from plants or animals with genetic material changed in specified ways. Prohibits marketing such food, or other processed food, as “natural.” Provides exemptions. Fiscal Impact: Increased annual state costs from a few hundred thousand dollars to over $1 million to regulate the labeling of genetically engineered foods. Additional, but likely not significant, governmental costs to address violations under the measure.

WHAT YOUR VOTE MEANS
YES A YES vote on this measure means: Genetically engineered foods sold in California would have to be specifically labeled as being genetically engineered.

NO A NO vote on this measure means: Genetically engineered foods sold in California would continue not to have specific labeling requirements.

ARGUMENTS
PRO Proposition 37 gives us the right to know what is in the food we eat and feed to our families. It simply requires labeling of food produced using genetic engineering, so we can choose whether to buy those products or not. We have a right to know.

CON Prop. 37 is a deceptive, deeply flawed food labeling scheme, full of special-interest exemptions and loopholes. Prop. 37 would: create new government bureaucracy costing taxpayers millions, authorize expensive shakedown lawsuits against farmers and small businesses, and increase family grocery bills by hundreds of dollars per year.


It appears to me that the wording on the ballot was pretty biased and was enough to scare the voters .


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In late September, 61 percent of polled Californians supported Prop 37. But just a month later, that opinion flipped upside down, and only 39 percent were in support of the proposition, with 51 percent in opposition of it.
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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 12:44 AM
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It might have something to do with this!


Prop 37 Vote-Fraud Update: 3.3 million Votes Still Uncounted (November 12, 2012) When the networks and other media outlets made the early call on election night, claiming Prop 37 had gone down to defeat, there were millions of votes still uncounted. I just checked the California Secretary of State’s website, which is the official center for vote results, and there are 3,334,495 votes that remain unprocessed.
permaculturenews.org...



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 04:25 AM
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I made a thread a while ago regarding most votes not being counted. They had it all worked out
since the beginning.


www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 01:35 PM
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From The Cornucopia Institute at --- www.cornucopia.org...

The other infographic can be found there as well. It is a wonderful resource for Food Freedom advocates.

I'm in CA and the advertising was filled will lies and deceit. But everyone (and I mean everyone) was voting in favor so I think more was involved then just propaganda. Around the state we have Abeulas (Grandmothers) that sell tamales from carts to make extra money for their families (best tamales you can find) and the were all lobbying in favor of Prop 37. I think the only people who voted against were stupid white people, but I digress.

The fight is on and this is an area where we can all come together and fight the monster. This is a universal sign of the monster (or beast in christ-speak).

Thanks for the thread.

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edit on 7-12-2012 by FyreByrd because: still learning...



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 01:49 PM
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maybe ads coming out with stuff like.....california will lose hundreds of thousands of jobs...or...food prices will increase drastically...or....farmers will go out of business...or....only some products will be labled.....or....there is nothing wrong with GM foods....or... it'll hurt poor people and those on a fixed income the hardest....lies like that.



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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**** Does anyone know how to get a linked image to show in the post????


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posted on Dec, 10 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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Think this was a planned even from TPTB as well.





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