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Originally posted by bknapple32
It is happening. I don't know if this has been posted yet. Opinions? I know this will be a heated debate. Im not in favor of socialism, and I dont think Obama is either, But to go back to Clinton rates, will bring the economy back. I fully believe that. The bush tax cuts had their time, and their ramifications, ie the recession of 08. Now its time to try something different. Who knows, it just might work!!!
Originally posted by bknapple32
It is happening. I don't know if this has been posted yet. Opinions? I know this will be a heated debate. Im not in favor of socialism, and I dont think Obama is either, But to go back to Clinton rates, will bring the economy back. I fully believe that. The bush tax cuts had their time, and their ramifications, ie the recession of 08. Now its time to try something different. Who knows, it just might work!!!
Also, would like people to notice that Boehner and Obama are in talks behind closed doors.
He said the White House had “wasted another week” by not responding to House Republicans.
Boehner spoke to Obama by phone on Wednesday, and their staffs talked on Thursday.
“The phone call was pleasant, but it was more of the same,” he said.
Boehner said Republicans had taken a step toward the president since the election by offering new revenue, but he said the move had not been reciprocated by engagement from the Democrats on spending cuts and entitlement reforms.
“When is he going to take a step toward us?” the Speaker asked.
Boehner also criticized a comment by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who said in a television interview Wednesday that the White House was “absolutely” prepared to go over the year-end cliff if the Republicans did not agree to raise tax rates.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Is there some reason you folks are not understanding? Raise taxes --> Less government revenue.
Yet you argue for rasing taxes on the rich even though it will generate less revenue. Is there really that much of a logic gap in those trained in the government controlled education camps.
Let's actually look at the numbers. In todays Wall Street Journal (Friday Sept. 7 2012) there is an article by Peter Schiff entitled "The Fantasy of a 91% Top Income Tax Rate". In that article he cites the following statistics. In 1958 the top 1/3 of income earners paid 29% of federal taxes. Today the top 3% pay 49.7% of all our taxes.
Now if you want a real argument against neocons, take on the globalists. Those are your real enemies. Unfortunately I've never seen a president more disposed to surrendering to them under UN oversight than this one. You would logically think that a liberal would be against global monopolistic governance, but apparently not.
Bill Clinton, was smart enough to realize that lowering taxes would increase the amount of money he could spend and he did so to great effect.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
Another liberal (who would be considered a right wing nut case if he ran today) is John F. Kennedy. He also realized that lower taxes and reduced burdens on business would improve his standing and his ability to launch crazy spending programs. His tax cuts resulting in a startling increase in government revenue. Enough so that it made the front page news of the day, I'm told.
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Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
Still, none present the radical realignment that we must embrace to crash successfully.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
I was responding not just to your post but many others, especially among the liberal side of the political aisle who absolutely never let the facts get in the way of the policies they support. The fact that taxation does not support their supposed goals, but in fact hinders their goals, does not appear to enter into their reasoning process.
For them I would remind them that one of their favorite heroes, the philanderer in chief, Bill Clinton, was smart enough to realize that lowering taxes would increase the amount of money he could spend and he did so to great effect. Another liberal (who would be considered a right wing nut case if he ran today) is John F. Kennedy. He also realized that lower taxes and reduced burdens on business would improve his standing and his ability to launch crazy spending programs. His tax cuts resulting in a startling increase in government revenue. Enough so that it made the front page news of the day, I'm told.
So we have two smart liberals who at least were self serving enough to know that growing the economy increased government revenue. What I want to see is a reasoned response from the left. Not this scary emotional, class envy, response based on Marxist brainwashing. Liberals with common sense should abandon their soak the rich rhetoric. It is the path of failure. I would instead like to see a reasoned response concerning the role of government and why we need to continue funding the welfare state.
Originally posted by DelMarvel
Then maybe we should go back the JFK tax rates. He lowered the top marginal rate from 91% to 70%.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
Shift the whole tax burden on to the globalists and tax imports from China. Now that will get the rich's attention. This tax the home grown rich BS is self destructive. Tax the rich overseas who are stealing your country out from under you.
WHO ARE THE RICH? I will not ask you again, and if you fail to answer I will assume you are a billionare and put you on ignore.
All the fat cat, champagne drinking, truffle eating, tahitti vacationing,