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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by MrInquisitive
There were no trial for secession after the war because they knew they would lose the cases.
Yet Jefferson Davis was imprisoned in chains mind you for 2 years after the war and never charged.
If it was such an open and shut case and in your view the half-million American dead were due to his actions, why not try him?
Adding extra emoticons doesn't replace rational argument.
I just want an open, balanced view of history which means seeing both sides of the argument.
Lincoln saved the Union but at what cost?
These are things rarely mentioned in media or education today.
Sherman's grand march to the sea is taught in every school - so burning down cities and plundering farms is somehow morally superior to slavery?
I'm done with this thread btw.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by camaro68ss
reply to post by MrInquisitive
If it was about slavery then why didnt the norther boarder state, who had legalized slavery, not join the south? simple question. your left winger teachers and propaganda will not rewrite history under my watch. only 20% of familys owned slaves in the south. No white county boy went to war over a slave. then went to war because of Taxation without representation just like the Revolutionary war. slavery was a small partedit on 7-12-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
Read a history book...nothing is rewritten, its taught that the war was from the south trying to leave the union. during the war, slaves were free (as a consequence).
The south did have a slave centric economy however, and didn't like the idea that slave importing would soon be federally banned...one of the reasons they decided to skip out of the union. Of course the lower class were fed a bunch of hoohah about states rights and such, form their own country, etc...but as always, the rich were the true motivators of the move...and they were quite happy with the slave based economy.
You can get poor dumb people to fight wars for you just by stroking their nationalistic pride...age old trick.
And your watch means nothing...unless you are a accredited historian whom has the influence to keep facts into history books, your ultimately just some guy on the internet telling one half the story.
Originally posted by ShotGunRum
reply to post by randomname
the way they are re-writing history, lincoln is the white martin luther king jr.
While he did say racist things before the war, after the war he WAS saying Martin Luther King Jr. type things. His last speech he spoke on racial equality and allowing black people to vote.
He even reportedly bowed to a black man who bowed at him
Was Lincoln racist? Probably. But nearly everyone was back then. Maybe he said whatever to get elected. Maybe he changed over time.
if any politician said the exact same things in that excerpt of lincoln, the msm would go ballistic.
Ummm this is because it is 2012 and racism is not tolerated (other than on Fox).
edit on 7-12-2012 by ShotGunRum because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by antonia
I will never understand why people keep fighting this battle: It doesn't matter anymore. Right or wrong, the civil war is over, that battle is done, stick a fork in it, roll the fat lady out, whatever you want to say about it. What the war was fought over changes nothing.
Originally posted by spangledbanner
The South will rise again.
And I relate to how you feel. Its like finding out Santa isnt real when you realize that 'history' is nothing more than propaganda and nonsense.
Originally posted by VforVendettea
reply to post by MentorsRiddle
The main reason for the civil war, as any good historian knows, is unfair rules and taxation placed upon the southern states...
Now 99% of americans are suffering under unfair rules and taxation not just the southern states. .
Originally posted by belindamck
reply to post by ShotGunRum
The war was about states rights period... and all the rights that those states encompassed! The taxation place don the citizens of the south lined the pockets of many wealthy up north! A prime example is the current situation with the Health Care that has been IMPOSED by the Federal Government, I do not agree with it one bit and our state even voted to impose an act in our state constitution of OPT OUT, which I voted for by the way.... Current situation included! Our elected leaders are not watching out for us, they are watching out for themselves.... they will not take part in the health care they have imposed, they will not lose any part of their retirement due to the cuts, they had nothing to lose... This is just my opinion and that is a right that I have been granted to voice whether you agree with me or not, To each their own!!