posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 06:42 AM
Originally posted by grumpy64
reply to post by Merriman Weir
I believed that Santa was Odin for several reasons. Santa or Sinter Clas seemed to be associated with Germanic peoples and therefore must have
originated from some pagan tradition.
There's a difference between 'some pagan tradition' and it being specifically Odin though.
Santa's ride through the sky at Christmas seems to echo Odin's wild hunt through the sky
Where are the rest of the riders though? Santa is one man in a sleigh pulled by animals - doesn't sound like or even look like a Wild Hunt. Further up
the thread, I pointed out that Thor's chariot pulled by his goats makes for a better iconic fit for a sleigh pulled by reindeer than the Wild Hunt.
Granted, Thor's chariot doesn't have the same function as the Wild Hunt (which would have been a procession of the dead or a furious war band), but
then neither does Santa's sleigh ride.
and I have read that Odin would leave gifts for children at Yule in return for the hay and carrots they would leave for his horse/s.
I've read this too, but I've never seen any source for it, or any documented folklore tradition other than people saying it on the internet. I read a
lot about heathenism, asatru, odinism &c online that has no sources as is basically UPG or some claim to super-secret and super-specific family
tradition that's managed to continue practice 'the old ways' for 1000s of years without interruption.
Although many people and deities have beards, Odin of course was the Longbeard and Santa simply must have a beard.
Yeah, he must have a beard, but he must also be a jolly, fat man. That doesn't sound like Odin to me. Also, doesn't Santa have two eyes? What happened
at Mimir's well is crucial to what and who Odin is and far more important a function than a beard.
Finally, Odin was such a highly worshipped god that there is no way his adherents were just going to let him disappear without a trace so they
At one point, Tyr/Tiwaz/Tiw was the predominant figure in Germanic religion. How did that pan out?
Many of our fairy tales we were told as kids are echoes of the old religions- just look at Sleeping Beauty who was actually a Valkyrie who
upset Odin by be being seen naked!
You need to read Volsunga saga again. She upset Odin because he didn't get his own way when she killed the man Odin favoured a fight. I doubt Odin was
embarrassed or angered by a pair of tits.
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