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reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 12:07 AM by smithjustinb
Originally posted by littled16
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Tut tut- no name calling please. We are adults here and can word our replies without stooping to such things. This is an interesting thread and I would hate to see it turn into a schoolyard game of "sticks and stones".


So why are you creating a subjective experience where my actions are resented? Isn't your reaction your choice and aren't you the only one who has to deal with it? With that said, I could care less about how you would like for this thread to play out. The fact is what is happening is happening. In an absolute sense, it is neither right nor wrong. So what's the problem and who's problem is it?


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 12:07 AM by smithjustinb
Originally posted by littled16
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Tut tut- no name calling please. We are adults here and can word our replies without stooping to such things. This is an interesting thread and I would hate to see it turn into a schoolyard game of "sticks and stones".


So why are you creating a subjective experience where my actions are resented? Isn't your reaction your choice and aren't you the only one who has to deal with it? With that said, I could care less about how you would like for this thread to play out. The fact is what is happening is happening. In an absolute sense, it is neither right nor wrong. So what's the problem and who's problem is it?


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 12:18 AM by littled16
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Personal name calling is a violation of T&C. Just don't want to see what was an enjoyable thread being shut down. Trying to do you a favor. There's no need to be offensive.



reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 12:20 AM by arpgme
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
What else, what other inanimate force, can organize such a complicated system over such a vast space? It is not simple, nor easy, to run a game like that. If chaos plays as heavy a role as traditional atheists seem to believe, then that system should have collapsed billions of years ago. In fact, it should have collapsed halfway through the Roman empire or something.

And yet we continue to grow, despite the chaos. Doesn't that imply some sort of support, some sort of aid?


No aid, just laws - adapt or die (evolution), be strong or die by superior forced (evolution). Of course violent humans seem to grow and expand. (Natural) Order came from Chaos. The more physical - the more order. Just like a planets for example, there is more gravity and light from its sun/star. But in outer space, there is no up/down and there is darkness (although you can see stars in the distance)..

I think space has to exist first before something can fill that space, even people who have near death experiences and say they see the "Light" knows that there is darkness beyond it - (pre-existence).


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 12:29 AM by smithjustinb
Originally posted by littled16
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Personal name calling is a violation of T&C. Just don't want to see what was an enjoyable thread being shut down. Trying to do you a favor. There's no need to be offensive.


Thank you for looking out. If i have offended anyone, it was hopefully only randyvs. I do not and will not believe that I was offensive towards anyone else. Therefore, if anyone else is offended, it is their own intolerance that caused them to be offended, and indeed it was also randyvs intolerance as well. In truth I was neither offensive ot inoffensive. But I definitely wanted to create that subjective scenario and play it out as if I believed it were true. Thank you for helping me see the light. I now know that I was neither offensive nor un offensive. But it did feel good–whatever that means.


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 12:45 AM by randyvs
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In this universe, you can't be unoffensive, non offensive, inoffensive, deoffensive, suboffensive, exoffensive and offensive all at the same time. But coming from someone who would stoop to a word like douche bag over a mere critique. Is hardly offensive to be sure. However it is a bit over the top wouldn't you say Smith ? Perhaps you should
have chosen a topic more in line with your mentality.

I know let's have a spelling contest.

edit on 7-12-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 01:51 AM by smithjustinb
Originally posted by randyvs
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In this universe, you can't be unoffensive, non offensive, inoffensive, deoffensive, suboffensive, exoffensive and offensive all at the same time. But coming from someone who would stoop to a word like douche bag over a mere critique. Is hardly offensive to be sure. However it is a bit over the top wouldn't you say Smith ? Perhaps you should
have chosen a topic more in line with your mentality.

I know let's have a spelling contest.

edit on 7-12-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)


I feel fully satisfied and fully justified with everything I have said. It is neither over the top nor under the top.


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 01:36 PM by AfterInfinity
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...wow. That's one heck of a backhanded apology. And that's another absolute truth - human beings resist change.



reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 08:42 PM by smithjustinb
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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...wow. That's one heck of a backhanded apology. And that's another absolute truth - human beings resist change.


It definitely wasn't an apology.


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 09:56 PM by AfterInfinity
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...okaaayyyy then. Were there any other 'absolute truths' we wanted to cover?


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 10:14 PM by smithjustinb
reply to post by AfterInfinity



There is only one absolute.

I do not know what I am. Do you know what you are?


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 10:59 PM by dominicus
Originally posted by smithjustinb
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post by AfterInfinity



There is only one absolute.

I do not know what I am. Do you know what you are?

The absolute truth is a direct experience of infinite objectivity which transcends the mind. Any description of the Tao is not the Tao, so in a sense, this thread and the debates here are a waste


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 11:04 PM by smithjustinb
Originally posted by dominicus
Originally posted by smithjustinb
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post by AfterInfinity



There is only one absolute.

I do not know what I am. Do you know what you are?

The absolute truth is a direct experience of infinite objectivity which transcends the mind. Any definition cription of the Tao is not the Tao, so in a sense, this thread and the debates here are a waste


It is neither a waste nor not a waste.


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 11:07 PM by smithjustinb
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The absolute is not the subjective. Or is it neither the subjective nor not the subjective or both? Very confusing to try and grasp the absolute.


reply posted on 8-12-2012 @ 02:10 PM by AfterInfinity
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You are very good at failing to answer questions despite your every effort to provide an answer.


reply posted on 8-12-2012 @ 05:44 PM by smithjustinb
reply to post by AfterInfinity



What's your point? I don't know everything, so I asked a question. Now you are saying that I should know the answers to my own question? If I knew, it wouldn't be a question, would it?
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