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Originally posted by earthalien50
reply to post by ZetaRediculian
reply to post by earthalien50
We agree the distortion of reality is real, but both sides of the argument are influenced by this.
We also agree there is definitely not enough information for absolute proof on either side. I have never implied that this is undisputed truth, it is a hypothesis that has not been proven or disproved.
I agree that pareidolia does exist and is common. But this accusation is not proof that it exists in this discussion.
No malice intended, but claiming a psychological disorder is causing this disagreement on only one side appears to be presumptive, intimidating, and incorrect in my opinion.
Originally posted by drakus
I just believe that people should at least look at the evidence and question the TPTB.
How can you infer we don't "question TPTB" just from the fact that we don't agree with you?
Many of us explained exactly why we think that it is very really highly unlikely that a creature evolved under completely different conditions than a rat, just to look exactly like a rat.
And we said also that this is just a picture, you need a little more than that to make a scientific claim (like "there be mice here")
But even more surprising to biologists is that some species that were so far apart on the evolutionary tree of life that they could be considered only distantly related seemed to look almost exactly the same.
How can two seemingly unrelated species that live in isolation from each other evolve into identical forms?
Sure, there are douches everywhere, but my advice would be to only engage those that show some kind of independent thought.
And NO, that doesn't mean agreeing with you. It means using analytic thought and not jumping to conclusions because I like those conclusions.
I assure you, most people here are really passionate about space and the unknow, even those who just see a rock!
Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
psychological disorder? This is my frustration here in general. Pareidolia has nothing to do with a psychological disorder. We all experience "psychology". I prefer brain physiology or biochemistry. We are all subject to a wide array perceptual phenomenon.
I argue that this HAS to be pareidolia because this is a one dimensional image. There is no depth or texture to the object that is unique to its surroundings. Even if this does turn out to be a Martian Rock Rat from Space, it is still pareidolia due to the fact that it is one flat image taken from one side comprised of light and dark pixels that form an image. There is not enough detail.
You said you see legs and a tail. There is none. when I zoom in where they should be, they disappear. Zoom out really fast and then you "see" it or rather your brain fills those details in.
Pareidolia has something to do with psychological disorder, it is similar to obsessive-compulsive behavior.
Originally posted by earthalien50
You are correct, I should have made that clearer.
I do not think that everyone blindly accepts TPTB. Good try though. Great PR tactic.
So if many explain exactly how they feel it is right? Science discovers new things every day, assuming that something is impossible in this case is just denial. I said it was an hypothesis, a scientific guess with not enough evidence to be a theory. No one can be proven right or wrong by the existing evidence.
This article might help you to understand why I think it is possible to have a rodent type creature on Mars. Nature adjusts to the environment and this can cause striking similarities between species.