Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
Because that was the reason for having a free democratic election. We are supposed to form policy around the votes of the people. That was supposed to
be the key to each of us having a voice in the government. Your vote COUNTED. Now a select few on the behalf of others(corporations) have a say over
yours, and if not over, at least before yours.
Negative. Representatives are that, representative of their constituency. It however does not mean they are beholden the will of the people who
voted for them. They are still, free, and will make decisions on their own. It is up to the people who voted for that representation to remove them
from office and place a more virtuous, moral person in their spot. Sadly, as I already alluded to, the People are anemic in their political savvy and
quite frankly, only clamor when it goes awry.
So no, your vote didn't count if you and your area of representation keeps voting in representatives who act the way that the majority of them act.
The prominent persons in Congress are most likely in the pockets of the money holders, but as evident in the recent swipe to the knees by
Representative Boehner, real representatives are a minority.
Forming a large group to purse monies together is ridiculous, that was the whole point to the vote(it should be illegal, wonder why it isnt?
Why would it be illegal? Our more senior citizens do so by joining the AARP. I did when I was in the military and joined the Sergeant's
Association, and so on and so forth. Pooling money and people helps advance ideas that are like minded. It is also a protected right. I, as you
are, are able to freely associate and with that association, we can present those redresses to our representatives.
You didn't need to be rich to have your voice heard. You simply walked down and voted and hoped rest of country was in line with your
thoughts. Now you have large families/corporations, using their money to get policy formed around their views. Not the country's views.
Agreed to an extent. What time period are we speaking to here? When it was viewed that only land-owners should vote? When society thought that
women shouldn't vote? I am curious as to when your voice was heard. At the smallest levels of Government, you have the greatest political power but
people refuse to exercise it and continue to abdicate it to the upper echelons of our Federal Government. The greatest power grab by the Federal
Government was the 17th Amendment, effectively transforming our government from a republic to a near democracy; all representatives are now popular
votes. Where has this gotten us?
Let alone the trump of all trump cards, electoral votes. That is the ultra elites fail safe, last ditch effort. Even if the entire 300 million
+ people of the country say go right. They still have the electoral to say go left and change the outcome of an entire election.
No it isn't. Again it falls back to the People who have allowed their respective States adopt rules and legislation that have cornered the market on
the electorate process. I agree that the process in nearly all 50 states needs to be revamped, but that won't occur until the People have decided
that they actually do have all the political power they have always had, but refused to utilize.
I think Americans and most in general have good political/debate skills. The problem is that many get smoke blown up the you know what. Why is
it for past 30+ years we are still talking about abortion?
I agree some areas have become the ultimate red-herring for our Federal Government. Even above, your lack of understanding of the electoral vote
process shows just how anemic our society is. Do you know why that system was created? A simple question for you, do we have national elections?
What is the Ninth Amendment and what does it mean? Why did James Madison oppose originally to include a Bill of Rights? I am not trying to call you
out, but those are all areas we should be well versed in, if we are to keep a republic.
Nothing has changed since R v W, so why is it even an election discussion topic?
Completely agreed. I honestly would prefer it back into the States' hands and in all honesty, it is a moot political point.