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I'm a relatively educated and intelligent person - knowing about where lightning originates is not rocket science, but learning about what allows it to propogate from the troposphere into the upper atmosphere is something that I havent really done yet. I do a lot of my posting from work (like I am now) so I dont really have that much time to read about it, but it seems interesting enough to read up about when I get some time at home.
So wood burning stoves have nothing to do with anything.
Originally posted by Phage
4) Understanding and quantifying the interaction of electromagnetic and acoustic waves with the plasma in flames
You don't understand something and are afraid of it. You believe the nonsense that people like Begich belch. When I don't understand something I try to do so. I don't go doing keyword searches and picking out of context statements to prove to myself that it really is something to be afraid of. There are more than enough real life things to worry about.
You said lightning storms originate in the ionosphere. You have presented no evidence of that being the case.
Brooks Agnew also believes the Earth is hollow, and he's off the the North Pole next summer to find the way in:
Originally posted by flyswatter
I'm a relatively educated and intelligent person - knowing about where lightning originates is not rocket science, but learning about what allows it to propogate from the troposphere into the upper atmosphere
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Uncinus
Brooks Agnew also believes the Earth is hollow, and he's off the the North Pole next summer to find the way in:
Fascinating video. So, basically, Admiral Byrd, wayback, began this search for an entrance to an underground haven at or near the north pole (well within the arctic cirle in any event). And Dr. Brooks Agnew has some kind of a grant and some idea of where to look and the use of a nuclear ice breaker to continue this search.
I stated previously in this thread that my knowledge and experience of tomography was limited to Dr. Brooks Agnew in the video I previously put up and an open house at JPL. That wasn't entirely true - had forgotten completely about Blue Mountain. Blue Mountain, fairly recently given back to the Pueblo tribes, showed anomalies in tomography returns suggesting an underground expanse. The entrance is supposedly lost in time and is only suggested by "our ancestors came out of a hole in the ground" Sipapu oral tradition. Taos, the name itself, means dwell gap.
So all I can really gather from your post is that you do not understand atronomical orbits and returns and therefore do not see a need for previous civilizations seeking haven underground.
Originally posted by Uncinus
You seem to suggest that ancient advanced civilizations would have created underground shelters to hid from some incoming body. But I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by Pervius
The first weaponized use of directional radio was by the Nazi's in WWII.
Sure about that? care to provide some proof.... any at all?
Who took control of the former nazi high power radio towers after WWII?
"TWR".....supposedly a christian outfit to blast the 'word' around the globe.
Except for the fact that
Trans World Radio was founded on February 11, 1952
Do you even know why directional radio is used? It appears you do not!
Originally posted by Pervius
First effective use of Directional Radio was the Nazi's creating plasma balls to disable bombers engines, the bomber crews called the plasma balls "Foo Fighters".
TWR took over the former Nazi's radio towers, use Google.
They have mega millions of transmitting power today and are using Directional Radio. Their recently upgraded facility in Guam for example....why so much power if they are merely transmitting bible stories??
TWR broadcasts to numerous unreached groups, such as the Han Chinese and Cantonese; North Korea, Myanmar and Vietnam are largely unreachable except by way of shortwave radio. Also within range of Guam’s broadcasting site, India and Indonesia receive numerous programs in multiple languages.
How on Earth are they paying the power bill to transmit mega-millions of watts every day?
If you enjoy reading look up what the former Nazi Wernher Von Braun...turned our NASA guy said about the Nazi nuclear bomb...."we gave them to America because you are a Christian nation and wouldn't use them".
Nazi's made the nuke first.
Straight from Von Braun
They even created the first remote control bombs. We took them after knocking down Germany and used them on the attack on Guam when we were retaking it from the Japanese.
Originally posted by Pervius
They have mega millions of transmitting power today and are using Directional Radio.
Did you read the team's notes instead of Nature's hype? "saw it with the naked eye!!" Does that sound like it's a surprised comment, or ho-hum business as usual?
Do you think a homeopathist, nay not even that, a FAKE homeopathist, can write something technically apt? Or is that best left to someone with a clue?
Did they? Does HAARP emit microwaves? Nope to both.
Anything between 3Hz and 300GHz is still refered to as RF waves, but they are subdivided depending on the actual frequency. Microwave is the general term used to describe RF waves that starts from UHF (Ultra High Frequency) to EHF (Extremely High Frequency) which covers all frequencies between 300Mhz to 300GHz, lower frequencies are refered to as radio waves while higher frequencies are called millimeter waves.
This array consists of 15x12 crossed dipole antennas, which together can transmit a total of 3600kW of RF power at frequencies from 2.8 - 10 MHz (HF, high frequency range).
The VLF group focuses on using HAARP to generate ELF and VLF waves through a process called modulated heating.
HAARP is located in a region where large natural currents, known as the auroral electrojet flow through the ionosphere. By turning the HF array on and off (i.e. modulating the HF power) at ELF frequencies, we can also modulate the conductivity of the ionosphere at those frequencies (Ferraro et al., 1982; Stubbe and Kopka, 1977; Tomko et al., 1980). When combined with the electric field that drives the auroral electrojet, the result is a current that oscillates and thus radiates at the modulation frequency: a ELF antenna in the ionosphere.
Earth's atmosphere, however, acts an opaque barrier to much of the electromagnetic spectrum. The atmosphere absorbs most of the wavelengths shorter than ultraviolet, most of the wavelengths between infrared and microwaves, and most of the longest radio waves. For radio astronomers this leaves only short wave radio to penetrate the atmosphere and bring information about the universe to our Earth-bound instruments. The main frequency ranges allowed to pass through the atmosphere are referred to as the radio window. The radio window consists of frequencies which range from about 5 MHz (5 million hertz) to 30 GHz (30 billion hertz). The low-frequency end of the window is limited by signals being reflected by the ionosphere back into space, while the upper limit is caused by absorption of the radio waves by water vapor and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. As atmospheric conditons change the radio window can expand or shrink. On clear days with perfect conditions signals as high as 300GHz have been detected.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
But help me out here and tell me, if you know, why this is unusual. (Keep it simple.)
HAARP Hits Moon With Radio Waves
The lunar echo measurements at 7.4075 MHZ are believed to be the lowest frequency (longest wavelength) at which bi-static radar measurements have been conducted.
The Effects of Earth's Upper Atmosphere on Radio Signals
The main frequency ranges allowed to pass through the atmosphere are referred to as the radio window. The radio window consists of frequencies which range from about 5 MHz (5 million hertz) to 30 GHz (30 billion hertz). The low-frequency end of the window is limited by signals being reflected by the ionosphere back into space, while the upper limit is caused by absorption of the radio waves by water vapor and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. As atmospheric conditons change the radio window can expand or shrink. On clear days with perfect conditions signals as high as 300GHz have been detected.
3MHz is the lowest frequency which will pass through the ionosphere.
Is it because it's getting down close to this 5 mega herz or 3 mega herz limit and because it's man-made?
Originally posted by Bedlam
Originally posted by Uncinus
Brooks Agnew also believes the Earth is hollow, and he's off the the North Pole next summer to find the way in:
www.npiee.org...
He also states he was using ELF, and then shows you a picture of the VHF rig he was using.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
I don't share your disdain for homeopathy. Dr. Begich brings exhaustively researched information on HAARP as mind control to the table in a format that is relatively easy to understand. Anyone, of reasonable intelligence, COULD have done that BUT Begich is the one who actually did it. If you succeed in putting people off Begich via your slurs, you succeed in making the road of the independent lay researcher more difficult. Although, your claimed area of expertise on HAARP, diesel engines, is not broad enough nor open enough to address HAARP as a soul catcher gadget. It takes a different sort of mental process, perhaps a homeopathic minded process, to look at that.
Originally posted by Speckle
From what is out there, you would be nieve at best to think the government would tell you what HAARP is for., since it appears to be designed for radio surveillance ,
and to look as far beneath the crust of the Earth.
And that is just what is admitted.
To look within DARPA budgets for answers is hilarious, dude.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Originally posted by Bedlam
He also states he was using ELF, and then shows you a picture of the VHF rig he was using.
Quit bringing dis-information to this thread. He talked about watts, not herz. Please point out where in the video he mentioned a frequency.