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Originally posted by luxordelphi
HIPAS was not using the electrojet as an antenna extension. Wrong location. Gakona = right location for that use. Also, "...half-cycle of high ERP, then squat." makes no sense if you're continually transmitting or, as in this case, pulsing. (The power falls off if it's not continually injected.)
Sorry...still not understanding. What are you saying here? HIPAS was an accidental transmitter? Whereas HAARP, openly transmitting RF, doesn't require spark gaps? They were for show then, on HIPAS, in order to fool us into thinking that HIPAS was what?
Don't be hasty. In my mind, if Eastlund and Tesla were with us in this thread today, we might grant that they know what they're talking about. I think that a video, with audio, of HAARP in operation would be a starting point.
Then we, those who have a glimmer about just what a nasty gadget HAARP is, would have something to debunk.
Just out of curiosity...lounging within the HAARP array would be extremely hazardous - agreed. But what about a remote video - they don't function there either? Get their guts fried, do they? Part of the problem with trying to harness or even study the ELF from lightning is the hazard of equipment proximity.
Lots of people understand HAARP - the technicians and scientists who work on it, people who study its results - why be so limited with your list??
Originally posted by luxordelphi
The ionosphere is a big unknown. A big question mark.
A place without rules,
but, thanks to HAARP, a place with a growing mountain of statistics; statistics that are useless because there is no morph into predictability.
And statistics acquired at what reckless cost? And this immense power, if truly ever harnessed, in whose hands?
And now you, with your usual Pollyanna nonsense, are trying to tell me that a technician, pushing a button, understands the ramifications of using HAARP?
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Lots of people understand HAARP - the technicians and scientists who work on it, people who study its results - why be so limited with your list??
It is appalling and disconcerting to encounter the ATS self-styled, self-serving 'experts' in post after post without end. The ionosphere is a big unknown. A big question mark. A place without rules, but, thanks to HAARP, a place with a growing mountain of statistics; statistics that are useless because there is no morph into predictability. And statistics acquired at what reckless cost? And this immense power, if truly ever harnessed, in whose hands?
Eastlund was quoted a number of times on HAARP. The things he said that HAARP was capable of should have cause a global outcry.
And now you, with your usual Pollyanna nonsense,
Terrestrial phenomena which I have noted conclusively show that there is no Heaviside layer, or if it exists, it is of no effect.
The Hertz wave theory of wireless transmission may be kept up for a while, but I do not hesitate to say that in a short time it will be recognized as one of the most remarkable and inexplicable aberrations of the scientific mind which has ever been recorded in history.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by buddhasystem
Actually, in an article from 1919 (after Wardenclyffe), Tesla scoffed at the idea that the ionosphere existed.
Odd that someone who disallowed the ionosphere any use for radio waves would be connected (by some) with HAARP.
It is appalling and disconcerting to encounter the ATS self-styled, self-serving 'experts' in post after post without end. The ionosphere is a big unknown. A big question mark. A place without rules, but, thanks to HAARP, a place with a growing mountain of statistics; statistics that are useless because there is no morph into predictability. And statistics acquired at what reckless cost? And this immense power, if truly ever harnessed, in whose hands?
You are amazing. We need more people like you. Smart, inform, honest, not scared to take on all the hard yards without backing down. If only these guys had their little toe filled with your genuine love and respect for our brothers and sisters they may see the light.
The broad research objective of this program has been to investigate unique concepts for generating ULF, ELF and VLF using the ionosphere as the "wireless" antenna.
Bringing Haarp to fruition was, well, complicated. A group of scientists had to cozy up to a US senator, cut deals with an oil company, and convince the Pentagon that the project might revolutionize war.
But the most striking sight at Haarp is the facility's largest array...It looks like a bionic forest. A cemetery for a cyborg army. Or an infinite nave in a futuristic outdoor church. Even the scientists get rhapsodic when they describe the array. "You stare up at the stars and listen to the wind in the guy wires," Kennedy says. "It's as close to a religious experience as you're ever going to get."
"Personally, I believe it can reach 1,000 kilometers. It can't reach Iran, if that's your question," he laughs. "But if I put Haarp on a ship, or on an oil platform, who knows?" Not that he has concrete plans for such tests in Alaska, let alone in the Persian Gulf—though he does mention a facility in Puerto Rico as a possibility."
Electromagnetic waves are waves which can travel through the vacuum of outer space. Mechanical waves, unlike electromagnetic waves, require the presence of a material medium in order to transport their energy from one location to another. Sound waves are examples of mechanical waves while light waves are examples of electromagnetic waves.
Electromagnetic waves are created by the vibration of an electric charge. This vibration creates a wave which has both an electric and a magnetic component. An electromagnetic wave transports its energy through a vacuum at a speed of 3.00 x 108 m/s (a speed value commonly represented by the symbol c). The propagation of an electromagnetic wave through a material medium occurs at a net speed which is less than 3.00 x 108 m/s. This is depicted in the animation below.
The mechanism of energy transport through a medium involves the absorption and reemission of the wave energy by the atoms of the material. When an electromagnetic wave impinges upon the atoms of a material, the energy of that wave is absorbed. The absorption of energy causes the electrons within the atoms to undergo vibrations. After a short period of vibrational motion, the vibrating electrons create a new electromagnetic wave with the same frequency as the first electromagnetic wave. While these vibrations occur for only a very short time, they delay the motion of the wave through the medium. Once the energy of the electromagnetic wave is reemitted by an atom, it travels through a small region of space between atoms. Once it reaches the next atom, the electromagnetic wave is absorbed, transformed into electron vibrations and then reemitted as an electromagnetic wave.
a. the state of a system in which an abnormally large vibration is produced in response to an external stimulus, occurring when the frequency of the stimulus is the same, or nearly the same, as the natural vibration frequency of the system.
b. the vibration produced in such a state.
a method of producing a three-dimensional image of the internal structures of a solid object (as the human body or the earth) by the observation and recording of the differences in the effects on the passage of waves of energy impinging on those structures
3. zoology to adjust (an internal rhythm of an organism) so that it synchronizes with an external cycle, such as that of light and dark
The phenomenon of entrainment was discovered in approximately 1665 by a Dutch scientist named Christian Huygens. He had a room with a number of pendulum driven clocks in it, and he observed that over time the pendulums of all the clocks fell into synchronization with each other. Even if he deliberately started them swinging at different times, he would inevitably return to find they had resynchronized themselves with each other. He called this synchronization tendency "entrainment".
In October of 1973 a remarkable report “Auditory Beats in the Brain” by Dr. Gerald Oster of the Mt. Sinai Medical Center was published in the Scientific American.
It explained, when tones of different frequencies were presented separately to each ear, pulsation's called binaural beats occurred in the brain.
This resulted in the whole brain becoming entrained to the internal beat and resonating to that frequency.
ELF/VLF stands for Extremely Low Frequency and Very Low Frequency, and refers to the range 300 Hz to 30 kHz. We're talking about radio waves, like the AM/FM signals you get, just at an even lower frequency. On our planet, the most potent source of ELF/VLF waves is lightning, so a lot of what we do comes down to studying lightning and its various impacts on our Earth's environment, detectable even in Antarctica.
Because ELF/VLF waves are guided by both the Earth and the ionosphere, you can send signals around the planet. Lightning does this all the time, but we haven't mastered it yet because to make ELF/VLF waves with an antenna, you need an antenna comparable to a wavelength. Unfortunately, a 3 kHz wave has a 100 km wavelength! The Stanford ELF/VLF group is exploring an alternative method of ELF/VLF wave generation, which utilizes the same currents that make the northern lights, to turn the upper atmosphere into a big radiating antenna. Read about our HAARP program work in Alaska.
Complicating these studies, however, is the fact that the propagation of radio waves in complex media such as the plasma in the Earth's lower ionosphere is one of the most fundamentally difficult ones in electromagnetism, violating nearly every convenient simplifying assumption like homogeneity, linearity, symmetry, and anisotropy. Numerically modeling these waves is requires the most advanced techniques available.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
The true situation, as far as science knowing what it is doing in these realms, is kind of like nudging a sleeping dragon in order to see what will happen next and then meticulously recording what does happen. It's a global experiment with absolutely no end result predictability.