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Assad’s chemical weapons units head out of Damascus toward Aleppo

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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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As NATO in Brussels gave the go-ahead Tuesday night, Dec. 4, for the deployment of Patriot surface-to-air missiles to protect Turkey against Syrian missiles, DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources reported that convoys of the Syrian army’s chemical weapons units headed out of Damascus under cover of dark and turned north up the road to Aleppo. Their destination is not yet known.


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If this is true, UH-OH!




posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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Oh dear, the lunatic is going to get himself and ALOT of innocent civilians killed. This is the ONE time I want Israel to go in Syria and take him out.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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debkafile’s military and intelligence sources



Sorry, the whole article it rife with speculative trash like this:


debkafile’s military sources report that by the time the missiles arrive, the Syrian chemical weapons units will almost certainly have reached their pre-planned positions. Furthermore, the Patriot air defense systems are not designed to counter artillery and would therefore be unable to stop shells loaded with poison gas.


Why the heck are they drawing connections that the chemical weapons will be used on Turkey???? Baseless conclusions if you ask me.

It is true that other sources have reported the mobilization of the Syrian regimes chemical weapons, but this article is certainly spinning quite a tail.

Its almost getting cliche for citing this source...



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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There is nothing more vile than chemical weapons. War is stupid enough, but to torture, then kill your enemy is inhuman. Anyone who understands how these work and the kind of sick disgusting ways you will die, knows that no person with a shred of humanity in them, could ever use such a horrid weapon. Those who use them should be tried for war crimes and the act of using them should be outlawed worldwide. Yea, I have an opinion about it.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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Those who massacre they're own people should be tried for war crimes also!



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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Those who massacre they're own people should be tried for war crimes also!

Moderator please delete this comment as it repeated, thanks in advance.
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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More propaganda to try and get NATO (The US) involved in a CIVIL war, that is none of our business.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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It's Debka. I would bet a large amount of money, parts of my body, and various family members that this story is a crock.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Well if this is true then the US will get involved Obama should make a statement soon , not that this surprises me been waiting for this for some time, remember Saddam Hussein used the same thing on the Kurd's.
Just an other mad man that needs to go, the leader of Syria that is.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Juggernog
More propaganda to try and get NATO (The US) involved in a CIVIL war, that is none of our business.


Over the last few decades it has been (nato) THE US who as instigated this type of propaganda just so they could get involved !!!!

Wolfie



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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got any other links then debka file? if this is true its a game changer but until some one other then that debka rag reports it i would not worry too much yet



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Yellowcake! WMD! Babies thrown from incubators! Viagra rape gangs!

This is right up there with those.




posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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The Independent is running with the same story and cause. I think they are probably watching what is happening with chemical weapons but there could be all sorts of reasons for moving the weapons - including that they are in danger of getting into the hands of the opposition.

The fact that they are moving the weapons is worrying though, whatever the reason.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by templar knight
The Independent is running with the same story and cause. I think they are probably watching what is happening with chemical weapons but there could be all sorts of reasons for moving the weapons - including that they are in danger of getting into the hands of the opposition.

The fact that they are moving the weapons is worrying though, whatever the reason.


The Independent story you linked to doesn't mention anything about the chemical weapons leaving for Aleppo - which is the specific detail that Debka is throwing around.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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People are concerned because of movements on the bases that have them. NATO warned Assad today that their use would bring a response. Lets hope that is enough to convinvce him it is not a good idea.
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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by Krono
Oh dear, the lunatic is going to get himself and ALOT of innocent civilians killed. This is the ONE time I want Israel to go in Syria and take him out.


Krono, for all we know he could be moving them around so they do not get into the hands of the FSA.. Imagine if they did and the FSA decided to let one go. Do you think they would be blamed? It is not illegal to move your weapons around and the west should stop with the paranioa. Assad has said he will not use those weapons against his people.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by Krono
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Those who massacre they're own people should be tried for war crimes also!


Don't be so quick to judge. The opposition are killing civilians also and believe it or not, over half the popultion of Syria are supportig Assad.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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I'm curious, did Assad (or his Generals) order this move after the U.S. warning or before? Because if he ordered this after the U.S. explicitly warned him that we would commence military action, I truly have to question either the sanity of Assad, the sanity of his military leadership, or the report itself. I don't quite understand why Assad would make such a risky move, knowing what it would portend. I know he is a dictator, but he can't possibly be this out of touch with reality--can he? Then again, he could just just be moving them around to get them out of sight, but still...where does he think he's going to hide them? The decision that world leaders make these days just continue to puzzle me.


-The Ghoster
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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by theghoster
I'm curious, did Assad (or his Generals) order this move after the U.S. warning or before? Because if he ordered this after the U.S. explicitly warned him that we would commence military action, I truly have to question either the sanity of Assad, the sanity of his military leadership, or the report itself. I don't quite understand why Assad would make such a risky move, knowing what it would portend. I know he is a dictator, but he can't possibly be this out of touch with reality--can he? The decision that world leaders make these days just continue to puzzle me.


-The Ghoster


Hes only a dictator because your government told you that. Ask the Syrians whether hes a dictator..I'm sure they would love to go back to the way things were before international mercenaries invaded their country. Again, with the amount of rebels fighting, they may not have any other option but to move the weapons. What if the rebels are closing in on where they are kept? So many different scenarios could be playing out in Syria yet the west are happy to suggest hes getting ready to bomb the ME to the stone age..
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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy

Originally posted by theghoster
I'm curious, did Assad (or his Generals) order this move after the U.S. warning or before? Because if he ordered this after the U.S. explicitly warned him that we would commence military action, I truly have to question either the sanity of Assad, the sanity of his military leadership, or the report itself. I don't quite understand why Assad would make such a risky move, knowing what it would portend. I know he is a dictator, but he can't possibly be this out of touch with reality--can he? The decision that world leaders make these days just continue to puzzle me.


-The Ghoster


Hes only a dictator because your government told you that. Ask the Syrians whether hes a dictator..I'm sure they would love to go back to the way things were before international mercenaries invaded their country. Again, with the amount of rebels fighting, they may not have any other option but to move the weapons. What if the rebels are closin in on where they are kept? So many different scenarios could be playing out in Syria yet the west are happy to suggest hes etting ready to bomb the ME.



That is something to consider. I always got the sense from Assad that he was Prime Minister in a rather precarious position. On the one hand, he did seem like he was interested in political and economic reforms, but he had to balance that with a sizable unemployed youthful population--which could explode (and did) into civil unrest at the slightest provocation (the Arab Spring) Coupled with a history of ethnic and religious conflict, his situation was delicate. I'm not advocating or apologizing for some the war crimes that have been committed---I'm just trying to understand Assad's position as a leader. It had to have been difficult and somewhat untenable---honestly I just don't think the economic, social, demographic factors were in Assad's favor to allow for the kind political and economic (remember these two things are not mutually exclusive) reform at the pace the U.S. and Arab Spring dissidents called for. At least that is one way of looking at it, anyway---I don't know, I'm just offering another perspective.

-The Ghoster
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