What the hell is wrong with the NY Post?

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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Mark it on your calendars - today is the day the New York Post reached a new low by publishing a photo of a dad about to be killed by a subway train. He died soon after being crushed. A dad of two, a businessman, was trying to stop a panhandler from harassing commuters - the panhandler shoved him onto the tracks.

Yet, the NY Post thinks its readership wants to see this gruesome and ultimately sad photo? They want to sell papers showing what is largely snuff material.

I remember as a kid if you wanted to see snuff photos or videos you had find the nearly-banned "Faces of Death" videos - I saw them once in the 1980s and never wanted to see that junk again. Even today with the Internet making it all too easy to find snuff footage; I generally stay away out of respect for the dead, and I don't want the images in my mind for health reasons, and I really don't think anyone should profit from tragedy.


Back to the NY Post. It was always a rag, but with this new direction I believe it has become not only a cheap tabloid, but a danger to be sold on newsstands - why you ask?

It needs to be put where the porno magazines are, on the back shelf, covered in cellophane, and with warning labels that describe its "news" coverage as "containing snuff material." Keep it away from kids and impressionable people. Take is off the easy-to-reach lower shelf and bury it.

I'm all for free speech, but this is just gross and tasteless. If the US population cannot handle seeing naked bodies in its publications, it sure as hell shouldn't be foisted with the tragic and gruesome deaths of people either (and for profit I might add again).

For those of you who complain that the cover photo doesn't even show the poor soul getting killed - it doesn't matter. He's a second away from death, your imagination does the rest.

Also, for the ATS community thinking I'm a hypocrite for drawing further attention to The Post's tasteless coverage - well, maybe I am a bit, but the issue is bigger for me - as in how much is too much to sell papers? How much will Americans put up with, or did we all become insensitive to death and tragedy? I certainly haven't.

Plain and simple - the NY Post just crossed the moral and ethical line. It no longer event attempts to be a responsible media agent. I will not buy that paper again (I rarely did when I lived in NYC, but when I visit - definitely not again).

I'm not even going to post link to this picture, but if you must decide for yourself head on over to Gawker.com; they printed it.

That's my rant. Screw you NY Post - piece of trash newspaper.



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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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Who took the photo and what is wrong with him? I would have risked my life to save him, and not tried to make a buck off his death. i would have grabbed his arm and attempted to pull him up. And i likely would have been hit by the train as well, but it would be a good death. Unless the train wasnt stopping there, it probably wasnt going that fast.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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ugh.

this is flat-out disgusting.

i wonder how that mans poor kids feel about their daddy's last moments with them were published for the world to see.

shame.

even back in the day i never wanted to watch those "faces of death" movies, it sickens me.
why would any sane person want to look at photos or video of someone actually being killed?
what kind of sick twisted mindset must you have?



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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The same people that watch killer karaoke or jersey shore or jerry springer, or that woman who belongs on springer that threatened that alien girl in that other rant thread



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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I agree it's nonsense but the last thing we need in this country is more censorship.

What if some person decided ATS was a dangerous website. We do judge the government and talk about aliens and show videos of terrorist attacks. Some threads talk about the end of the world and how to survive outside of society.

It's called freedom and just because you don't agree you don't have the right to decide for the majority.

I don't like rap or hip hop but I've never agreed with the idea of censorship. If you don't want your children listening to the garbage then, here's a thought, be a parent and control your kids.

If you don't want to read it then don't read it but don't decide for me.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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You know what I have more to say....

As I thought about this thread it really began to piss me off!!

You OP are guilty of doing the same thing as the NY Post talk about being a hypocrite. You are profiting by posting the same image they printed. Oh sure you won't make money but you will get stars and flags and if you're honest you'll admit that was your ultimate goal!



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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The Post lamely defends its freelance photographer - saying he was using his flash to alert the train operator and that the photog was too weak to help this man. I'd source it at Gawker, but the photo is there too. But I'm with you, I would have dropped that camera and tried - at least tried to save him.

reply to post by CagliostroTheGreat
 


Seriously. His kids, his family now has their dad nearly dead forever immoratalized in popular media. Way to go NY Post - thanks for screwing up a family too while you're at it.

As for the "Faces of Death" videos - yeah, I was a stupid boy who was curious. But I'm happy to say 30-years later that my curiosity was fully satisfied - no need to ever willingly revisit that topic again.

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Again, I'm all for free speech even when I don't like. Shoot, I fought for the US to allow people to verbally trash if they so please - be free all you want.

BUT, big giant but. Classify the NY Post now as potentially harmful material. Get it off the bottom newsstand shelf where it happy sells in plain-site, and put it on the back row where the porno mags reside. Slap a sticker on it as is done with bad lyrics on CDs, and make sure the public knows it may find the material questionable.


The NY Post, in my mind, just lost its license to share the same space with the NY Times, WSJ, NY Daily News...

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Thanks Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes, not only did you try to buy off the US presidential election (see this story today from The Washington Post), but you also just cheapened life by greedily profiting from it.
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Again, I'm all for free speech even when I don't like. Shoot, I fought for the US to allow people to verbally trash if they so please - be free all you want.

BUT, big giant but. Classify the NY Post now as potentially harmful material. Get it off the bottom newsstand shelf where it happy sells in plain-site, and put on back row where the porno mags are. Slap a sticker on it as is done with bad lyrics on CDs, and make sure the public knows it may find the material questionable.


Perhaps you're right and I agree it was a very tasteless picture and it's ridiculous for them to print such images.

I apologize for losing my temper but when people talk of censoring I lose my freaking mind.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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Whatever. Don't star & flag it. I get my stars & flags off quality topics in the space and conspiracy forums. This is a rant. Plain and simple.

And I'm glad you're mad - because now we have something in common.


ETA: I star folks in my threads as a way to say "thanks" for chatting with me, if I disagree or not. That's my reasoning.

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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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I hear you 100%. I'm not in a good mood either right now, that's why I came over the Rant Section rather than debate with co-workers in what would surely end with me losing my cool.
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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I just checked their facebook page and they're definitely getting quite the #storm from people, heres only SOME of them

Xavier Nabu
Piece of # rag. # you!
about a minute ago

Matt Mahony
Wow you use a picture of a man about to die to make money
4 minutes ago

Matty Subzero-skarhead MangiaMangia
# The NY Post. Buy Nation Geographic
Like · · 11 minutes ago
Lavon Sealy likes this.


Brittney P. Reagan
Complete lack of respect, consideration and tact on your front page today. So unbelievably inappropriate.
12 minutes ago
4 people like this.

Paul Weiss
Taking a picture instead of helping a man who is about to die? # yourself.
12 minutes ago

Jerry Fischer
You heartless bastards are inhumane for publishing that cover as today's paper!! I for one will NEVER buy this toilet paper of a newspaper again and I know many others agree and will do the same. FIRE THE EDITOR IN CHIEF and all others who agreed to make this the cover!!! Disgraceful and disgusting!!!
15 minutes ago

Dennis DeGraw
Absolutely no regaurds for the family involved in yesterday's tragedy. You have showed a disgrace for New York City and in journalism in general. Never again will my money be spent on your class act trash paper. Disgraceful
15 minutes ago

Mike Brisbois
Infra dig. Extremely uncool. You people consider yourselves journalists?
15 minutes ago

Chris Lopez
What.is.wrong.with.you.people.
16 minutes ago

Stefanie Norwich
How dare you post such a photo! I'm glad your happy making money off of others expense. I bet you guys love all this controversy you insensitive fools. What if that was your father on the cover?
16 minutes ago

Lauren Mondi
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.... How insensitive can you be..
22 minutes ago

Pat Kewley
Just curious - when you beg god for forgiveness for the unforgiveable sin you committed today, do you just do it in your head or do you actually do it out loud, verbally? I'm asking for a friend - he hasn't been able to acces his facebook since he got run over by a subway train. Thx.
22 minutes ago

Nikki Holter
Your cover today is an absolutely disgusting display of your lack of humanity and empathy! I'm sickened to see a sensationalized headline and photo of a frantic man's last moments. That man is someone's father, husband, and loved one. A tragic accident made all the more appalling by the Post. Disgusting.
23 minutes ago

Steve Bauer
This picture is disgusting! You are disgusting! This is far away from humanity and in every single pixel disrespectful to life! Shame on you, for publishing such a picture, cause it has nothing to do with journalism, it is just to make money! I hope no one ever will buy your disrespectful paper!
Like · · 29 minutes ago

Rachel Matthews
I am viscerally disgusted by your papers front page, photo and headline today. you all should feel ashamed and disgraged.
46 minutes ago

Dennis Rim
"The New York Post was founded in 1801 and is the oldest continually published daily newspaper in America." It's a shame. The New York Post has such a rich history, and what is it today? The definition of modern yellow journalism. The de...See More
49 minutes ago
9 people like this.

Billy Mitchell
Ya'll should feel ashamed for putting that photo up on the cover. Bunch of low life scumbags. Way to keep it classy POST
54 minutes ago

Michael Johnson
Real nice front page, why don't you have more respect for this persons family.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 12:40 PM
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What's sad is we're all doing what they want us to do.
Talking about it.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Not nesciarly. It seems a lot of dedicated readers of the Post are utterly disgusted by it (as they should.) I personally don't read the Post, and after hearing about this on here I vow to never pick up a copy of it in my lifetime. In this case I think people talking about it is actually quite a good thing.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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There is a list of people at fault here...
The one who pushed him in the first place
Others on the platform whose benefit the man was acting on in the first place
The photographer
The editors who decided to print the photos.
If you are going to crucify, you better build more crosses.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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We need to talk about it - it's an issue about the forth estate pushing the boundaries and desensitizing the public to gross violence. I looked at the picture again to justify my outrage and now the freaking copy has me mad: "Pushed on the subway track, this man is about to die DOOMED"

WTF! Who the hell wrote that, what editor thought running with that copy was a good idea.

This hits on two topics I'm passionate about - media responsibility and safety in the NY subway. I wrote a thread awhile back about how to survive if this happens to you, if you're interested check it out. I'm not looking for stars & flags just adding educational stuff to parlay my anger.

ATS thread: If you fall onto the subway tracks the worst thing to do is try to climb back up


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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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Rupert Murdoch is what's wrong with the NY Post.
Nuff said.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by phroziac
Who took the photo and what is wrong with him? I would have risked my life to save him, and not tried to make a buck off his death. i would have grabbed his arm and attempted to pull him up. And i likely would have been hit by the train as well, but it would be a good death. Unless the train wasnt stopping there, it probably wasnt going that fast.


I would have thought that the likelihood is that with adrenaline, a man of even small size would have been able to pull him up

As for the photographer saying that he was trying to flash the train driver to get him to stop, if that was the case, why sell the photos to the media afterwards?



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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This is the kind of world we live in these days - everyone has a cell phone with a camera, everyone has to upload everything they see in their lives onto facebook and other social media sites, in hopes of getting their 15 minutes of fame. People disgust me these days. Put away the cameras folks, and actually help someone in trouble instead of watching them die in front of you. People today have no clue - and obviously, no concept of conscious either!!

Side note, this just happened in my own city. A man was pushed over the platform onto the rail in a busy LRT station. Luckily, there were some people with a good heart who helped him back up before the train hit him.
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:25 PM
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Well, scratch the New York Post from anything I ever source or use in any way again. They dumped down past The Enquirer with that one and it's sickening. It's a real human being. God, thats horrible to have run. I'm glad you cropped what you posted. It would have been tasteless in an accident where someone lived but damn, that should almost be criminal right there. That not even doom porn, It's honest to God snuff. I feel dirty just knowing that was on a US news publication front page.

Almost criminal...but that 1st amendment... Yeah. Whatever.
Call this one of those rare times I gotta accept it for that basis but no one said there was a law about liking it. ..and the consumers can show what Government cannot. The 1st Amendment does NOT say 'The public shall generate no reaction. . . '


If enough people agree that was vile to print....They will feel the error in doing it right in the financial return. It's why it was run in the first place. Money on sales. The guys death sold a few extra papers. I hope that money comes in as part of what has to be loss to fake bills or something. Merry Christmas to them too, while we're at it. That poor guy had family and friends who'll never...ever..EVER...forget that photo now.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 12:53 AM
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It's not unlike Foxs "news" showing a person commit suicide live on tv - as it did fairly recently. Both Fox and the NY Post are owned by Rupert Murdoch. It's time to take this sleazebag down and confiscate his media holdings. This is snuff pornography, which has no redeeming social value and solely caters to the prurient interests; therefore, it loses its First-Amendment rights. The Supreme Court has established this precedent. Murdoch's US holdings should be confiscated. Period. This is not protected speech or political speech. It's just pornographic sensationalism, which has no protection under the Constitution.





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