Energy, Cold Fusion, & Antigravity: Frank Znidarsic (Gets Published)

Frank Znidarsic gets his book published, in a peer review journal? No. In Scientific American? No.

On Amazon.

For those unfamiliar with Frank there is a short blurb here, gobbledygook and all.

I'm not encouraging anyone to buy this, but if the subject interests you by all means. Just keep in mind it is not peer reviewed work.

I thought it was interesting enough for the forum to show the beginnings of someone selling books on ideas that a lot of people want to believe in, even if that want clouds their judgement on whether or not there is any scientific method to the work.


From the comments section:

www.e-catworld.com...

From Vortex
fznidarsic Sat, 01 Dec 2012 08:00:08 -0800
Peer reviewed journals have rejected me for 20 years. With the help of Miley and Glen Robenson I had two peer reviewed conference papers published.

They were gutted to pass the reviewers and say nothing. I don’t even understand them in their “perfected” state. How could anyone else?

A journal, just now, is reviewing my paper. It may go. Publication fees are $600. Why would I want to pay that?
Along comes Amazon and publishes my book, saying what I want and how I want. I make a few bucks on the deal. The books are selling.

Who needs peer review in this modern age? Dun Da Da Dun, can’t stop me. Dun Da do dun, can’t stop me.
Thank you Amazon, nice paper back, global market, and
getting the message out.

I hope in the future he decides to ignore the fees associated with the peer review journal he chose (not all charge and some are willing to waive fees)

Our fee waiver policy, whereby PLOS offers to waive or further reduce the payment required of authors who cannot pay the full amount charged for publication, remains in effect. Editors and reviewers have no access to whether authors are able to pay; decisions to publish are only based on editorial criteria.

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And in any case, the fee is minimal when compared with the prestige of having something peer reviewed.

Here is an article on Frank.

His online friends who are in the same pursuit as him to uncover the elusive cold fusion and similar, also recommended he not give up the idea of something peer reviewed.

I'm just throwing this in the forum to document when he did decide to publish on Amazon, in case he slips into the anti-gravity, cold-fusion, guru role, which many have before once realizing how much can be made off shoving fantasy books down the fans throats.

Below is Frank appearing on a radio show, posted on YT with some of his ideas on physics:

This is awesome... love this stuff.

Of course, I want to believe... but is it provable? Seems as it is.

reply to post by boncho


Uh. Magnetic levitation? That's already around, for instance in some globes National Geographic sells.

Cold fusion is impossible. Well, it's supposed to be. You need higher level of energy. To provide that energy you have to use a source...

Without getting in to the matter itself, I agree on one thing....

Peer reviewing has one big flaw built in to the system...no matter how good your paper is, if it's ground breaking and disturbs the currently accepted theory(s)...it is more likely to be rejected and marked as "out there", so as not to disturb the current paradigm. Almost always, great breakthroughs have come after great battles with the establishment.

The poster before me stated "cold fusion is impossible"....that's the problem...we must never take that stance. A more subtle approach like "as far as our tech understanding of today goes, we are unable to make it happen" would be more to my liking.

I actually think...very few things are impossible for human kind. I guess you can call that faith...

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly

The poster before me stated "cold fusion is impossible"....that's the problem...we must never take that stance. A more subtle approach like "as far as our tech understanding of today goes, we are unable to make it happen" would be more to my liking.

I must apologize, I agree that my stance was not very scientific here.

But still, so far, cold fusion has been claimed by at least dozens of guys, and most of them proved to be quacks. It is currently agreed (but, again, as you say, science is an ever evolving area) that cold fusion can't be reached as it deal with not enough levels of energy.

reply to post by swan001


Wasn't aiming specifically at you, just an observation on my part.

I like to think we can achieve great things. Maybe, just maybe in another 500 years...cold fusion will be child's play. If we remember how far we've come from caves to today's skyscrapers and machines flying in to the universe...god damn...there is nothing we can't accomplish. Just give us time and freedom to dream.

reply to post by MarioOnTheFly


100% agree with you here

reply to post by MarioOnTheFly


...except that in order to publish your work must be novel and useful, i.e. it has to push the field forward. Not only that but journals fall over themselves to publish genuinely groundbreaking work that tears up the rule book and rewrites our understanding of physics. The people who assert that journals and referees refuse to publish revolutionary work have absolutely no clue how the academic publishing process works.

Cold fusion
Is a DOLPHIN ART FORM....!!!
They create bio luninescent bubbles,which burst in a bright flash when they reach the surface.....
recent investigations by scientists claim its a form of cold fusion......
I guess we are too late by a few million years.....................

Originally posted by boncho
Frank Znidarsic gets his book published, in a peer review journal? No. In Scientific American? No.

On Amazon.

I guess his earlier books were self-published by Znidarsic Science Books. Apparently this book is also self-published, except the independent publishing is now through createspace.com, since Amazon lists the publisher as "CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform".

So, I'm not sure this really counts as getting your book published.

Seems to me like it's still a form of self-publishing.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


Yes, I think it's the distribution that has him excited. Although maybe they offer this to everyone? In which case, I have a book to publish...

Certainly a way to avoid any kind of review. But then he states, he tried to get his publications peer reviewed?

Did a quick search on arxiv.org, no results... wondering why?

Makes it look like he is trying to make a quick buck from the fringe crowd.

reply to post by boncho


i have been reading franks work for over two years,
there is no doubt in my mind he is a very clever scientist with some very original ideas,
and he has done everything in his power to share these ideas with the world for free.

while some here would point to his book and say
"look he is just doing it for the money"

i look at it like this, he tryed to give his work away for free,
and a payed platform may get his work more widly read.

so i dont blame him for publishing a book.

have you read his works?
do you understand the implications of his work?

do you know his goal is for the benefit of man kind?

i do not vouch for the correctness of his assumptions,
but do see that he has unique ideas and pushes the accepted boundaries of science.

both things to be admired, yes?

xploder

Originally posted by boncho
Yes, I think it's the distribution that has him excited. Although maybe they offer this to everyone? In which case, I have a book to publish...

They don't offer it to everyone, just the people that are capable of clicking the link at the bottom here that says "Create a book". I think you're up to it.

www.createspace.com...

Originally posted by XPLodER
i do not vouch for the correctness of his assumptions,
but do see that he has unique ideas and pushes the accepted boundaries of science.

both things to be admired, yes?

If there's any foundation to the work, it can be admired on that basis. But if there's not, then no, there's nothing to admire about someone publishing BS about antigravity.

reply to post by XPLodER


Serious questions: how do you know his ideas are valid? How do you know he is legitimate? What background do you have that gives you the competency to weigh his research against the work of physicists active in the field?

The last question isn't an attempt to be condescending but to illustrate an important point. The information density of scientific research papers is incredibly high as they are written with the assumption that the reader is highly informed and well versed in the pertinent past and present related research conducted within the field. Needless to say, they are near-impenetrable to the layman and can be difficult to digest even for those active in the field. It takes years of training and education to reach the point where you are an active publishing member of the field so of course the work will be checked for validity by peers within the field because they are the ones who have the knowledge and expertise to make judgements as to whether someone's work is sound or not. This isn't a grand conspiracy, it's a simple division of labour. Specialist jobs require intensive specialist training. The idea that layman are fit for purpose to review the soundness of cutting edge esoteric research is completely unrealistic.

So when someone says "I broke the laws of physics but the scientific establishment stone walled me" you have to take them at their word. Not only that but a cursory look at how scientific research is conducted would make it painfully obvious that this is not the case. If the "science refuses new ideas or evidence that runs contrary to established theories!" hypothesis was true then there wouldn't have been any scientific and technological progress in the last few centuries since scientific method was formally adopted. Again, this is clearly not the case. Furthermore, one would have to ignore the countless models the have been usurped by newer and better ideas, which would be a rather silly thing to do.

reply to post by XPLodER

there is no doubt in my mind he is a very clever scientist with some very original ideas,

I believe he is an engineer, correct me if I'm wrong?*

and he has done everything in his power to share these ideas with the world for free.

How altruistic of him. Although he will charge for his ebook!

do you know his goal is for the benefit of man kind?

There are plenty of Miss America Pageant contestants that want world peace, that is besides the point.

i do not vouch for the correctness of his assumptions,
but do see that he has unique ideas and pushes the accepted boundaries of science.

both things to be admired, yes?

I will agree there is nothing wrong with having an open mind. Although it is important he try and get his work validated with scientific method. Even if it's done by the people who are in the same circles as him. There are plenty of LENR guys that work on each other's projects, and plenty of them have enough integrity not to simply rubber stamp something because they merely believe in it.

I follow frank when I can, he is a good Scientific Citizen, he has interesting ideas, and he is open to new ideas from others who are considered fringe scientists like Eugene Podkletnov. He sometimes hangs out at the email based Vortex forums where cold fusion is discussed.

Originally posted by RING0
I follow frank when I can, he is a good Scientific Citizen, he has interesting ideas, and he is open to new ideas from others who are considered fringe scientists like Eugene Podkletnov. He sometimes hangs out at the email based Vortex forums where cold fusion is discussed.

Yep, see him all the time there. I like those guys for the most part. But the crowd has changed over the years. Starting to get more kooky participants IMO...