Breaking News : Iran captures intruding US drone over Persian Gulf waters

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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by FidelityMusic
I say this is their plan. Let Iran gain confidence leading up to an attack and they wont see what was coming to them when sh*t gets real. Who knows though, Iran might just be THAT good.


No

I'm sure they fly drones 24/7 in that region, some are bound to go missing/crash/get shot down or even hacked.

Not everything is a conspiracy.




posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
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Drones or People? I think captured drones is the better outcome, especially when it comes to how Iranians deal with Americans or American Military. Second, we don't know where it was really captured. Over open water, in the Water,etc..............I sure wont take PressTV as a legitimate source.





My point was, that surely after drone takedown #1 the US would take the necessary precautions to avoid a repeat embarrassment.




posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:29 AM
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Its now being reported on MSM
here is link
uk.news.yahoo.com...;



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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Except that UAV #1 wasn't the first one, and it wasn't taken down. From what I've read, it suffered a mechanical failure and crash landed, and was recovered. It was operated by Lockheed Martin, and they didn't have the destruct systems on it that the AF would have had if they had been operating it.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by Timely
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Surely the the US military intelligence is intelligent enough not to let this happen twice !??



ahh... your kidding... right

wait your not?


The US has lost 2 drones.. tsk tsk, I suppose this is what happens when you have young operators parked in trucks on the otherside of the world flying them!

I doubt Iran can really do anything with the drone other than sell it, i dont think they have the technological know-how to decrypt and understand it. Not saying they are not smart, they created algebra, but the US military probably has some incredible encryption encrypting their encrypted encryptions.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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It's more than two. Several Predators have gone down/been shot down in the area, along with at least a couple more ScanEagle's and at least one or two microUAVs.

This one actually was flown from CIC on a ship in that area, not halfway around the world. But the smaller UAVs are designed and built to be lost. They are designed to be flown over a battlefield, so they're built pretty cheaply (for a military project), and in pretty big numbers.

As for encryption, some things they have great encryption, and other things you sit and go "WTF?! Really?!" Like the images from the Predator. One of the things you'd think they'd have locked down so tight it isn't even funny. They're unencrypted, and you don't even need a special receiver to see them being broadcast in real time.
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by Spike Spiegle
Things are heating up, I wonder how the U.S and others are going to respond to this.

SS


By not illegally flying war drones into Iranian airspace perhaps?

That would be a start.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by UltraMarine
reply to post by SilentKoala
 


They hack into the system and force it to land in their territory


If that's true, it shows two very important things.

1). The USA military has a stated ambition of a 30% drone or pilotless airforce...they need to quickly rethink this, or else design MUCH better encryption software, or 30% of their airforce, could potentially be turned around to bomb and strafe the US or it's allies.

2). Iranians have much more self restraint than most nations who suffer illegal incursions into their sovereign territory, and they are much better at cyberwarfare than much of the world gives them credit for.

Either way, the ability to command a drone flying over their airspace to land, whether by hacking into the crafts radio/satellite signals or by using some other, as yet unknown ability to 'pluck a drone, intact, from the sky..means the Iranians are not going to be the cake walk Israel and it's lackies hope they'll be.

In fact, the warmongers and propagandists should be having second thoughts about exactly who is going to have to roll over and show their belly, if US aircraft, as costly and as packed with high technology as they are, are THIS EASY to down or capture for the Iranians.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 04:04 AM
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capture ?
then they successfully hacked another drone again
soon they will have an army of US drones to fight against US drones



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 04:36 AM
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My point exactly ... " Hey China, mate look what we have 'ere can WE work with this."

Once bitten twice shy. Or ... here have a free kick at this 'loaded one' .



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 04:53 AM
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A spokesman for US Naval Forces Central Command in Bahrain said: "The US Navy has fully accounted for all unmanned air vehicles operating in the Middle East region.

"We have no record that we have lost any ScanEagles recently."


This may be because the Navy did not launch it.

I think it is entirely possible that this low tech drone was "gathering intelligence" for several days and captured by Iran as part of an intended plan on the part of the US.

When the Iranians downloaded the footage, all they probably found was porno!



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by Timely
 


Drones or People? I think captured drones is the better outcome, especially when it comes to how Iranians deal with Americans or American Military. Second, we don't know where it was really captured. Over open water, in the Water,etc..............I sure wont take PressTV as a legitimate source.

A very curious statement
How do Iranians treat Americans or American military?
I do not recall Iranians ill treating any American or military in recent history, Iran has sustained assasinations of its nuclear scientists, it has suffered viruses attacking nuclear facilities and even had a passenger jet shot down and it has not retaliated.
So please enlighten me.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:00 AM
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The Iranians have released footage of a Boeing ScanEagle in their possession.



Of course there are no indicators as to when this ScanEagle was lost. Iran has for the past year or so indicated that they would put on show all the US drones in their possession. ScanEagles have been used in Iraq and the US Navy has lost them in the Persian Gulf before.

This might account for the US Navy statement.


"The US Navy has fully accounted for all unmanned air vehicles (UAV) operating in the Middle East region. Our operations in the Gulf are confined to internationally recognised water and air space," Commander Jason Salata, from the US Navy's 5th Fleet, said. "We have no record that we have lost any ScanEagles recently."He added that US ScanEagles have been lost into the sea in the past.


news.sky.com...



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:27 AM
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Or simply that the UAVs malfunctioned. Remember the Iranians are in propaganda mode. It is great for their populace and also on the world bragging stage that such incidents are hyped to the full. When they recover such drone do you really think that they are just going to say that it crash landed in their territory? Of course not they are going to hype it for all they are worth to make out that they can control the technology of the 'Great Satan'.

You can see this in the propaganda BS released by Fars last year. They can control all military technology in the world



Hacking such an extremely sophisticated system, which until last week was considered impossible, means that the Iranians are able to enter all computer-based network systems in the US and Europe. Since the algorithm and logic behind other systems are much simpler, the Iranians may be able to control all radars, satellites, planes, ships, tanks, rockets, cruise missiles and so on of the US and NATO throughout the world. They may be able to even control American soldiers, who are driven to fight using satellite controlled infrared systems.


english.farsnews.com...



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by munkey66

A very curious statement
How do Iranians treat Americans or American military?
I do not recall Iranians ill treating any American or military in recent history........
So please enlighten me.


Iran hostage crisis

Robert Levinson

2009–2011 detention of American hikers by Iran


Amir Mirza Hekmati


Enlightened?



As an American,I would take the loss of a Drone, any day.

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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop

Originally posted by Timely
reply to post by UltraMarine
 

Surely the the US military intelligence is intelligent enough not to let this happen twice !??



ahh... your kidding... right

wait your not?


The US has lost 2 drones.. tsk tsk, I suppose this is what happens when you have young operators parked in trucks on the otherside of the world flying them!

I doubt Iran can really do anything with the drone other than sell it, i dont think they have the technological know-how to decrypt and understand it. Not saying they are not smart, they created algebra, but the US military probably has some incredible encryption encrypting their encrypted encryptions.



What would they decrypt. it is a basic intellegence gathering device. Photos and such, not like they store state secrets in it.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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You don't hack into it, you either block, or spoof the GPS. You aren't giving the UAV any commands, you're just confusing it, and making it think that it's where it's supposed to be landing, and it lands (if it's a preprogramed UAV). In the case of something like the Predator, you have a pilot flying it, so you can't do that.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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The Iraqi's also operate ScanEagles and use them for over water surveillance.

thehill.com...

Extensively used by the US military in Iraq. Probably more than a few have been lost over the years!

www.gizmag.com...

After the events of the RQ-170 last year Iran revealed that it had other captured drones and would reveal them during an exhibition.

The Revolutionary Guard Navy might simply be churning out a previously lost drone for propaganda purposes.

2011 report


Report: Iran to display Israeli, US drones Iranian newspaper claims Tehran intercepted no less than four Israeli drones which will be showcased in upcoming exhibition An Iranian exhibition will showcase four Israeli drones, the Tehran Times reported on Wednesday. According to the report, The exhibition will also display three American drones and will be open to local press and foreign ambassadors. The newspaper quoted a source saying that Iran seized the Israeli jets after they invaded Iran's aerial space on its eastern border. The US drones were apparently caught when flying over eastern and southern Iran. Last January, a senior Revolutionary Guard commander announced that his forces intercepted two spy planes in the Persian Gulf. He did not mention where the jets came from or where they were intercepted but also addressed Israel in the same statement. The exhibition is part of Tehran's psychological warfare campaign following the interception of a US drone last week. The Islamic Republic wants to prove it can thwart any aerial infiltration attempt and prevent spying missions targeting its nuclear facilities.


www.ynetnews.com...



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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The U.S. Navy is denying this, and claim that all of their drones are accounted for, so who's drone was it?

The Iranians are also claiming they are increasing their uranium enrichment at their underground facility. (unsubstantiated)

The clock is ticking... The red line approaching more rapidly than many expected, Syria is preparing for a final battle and perhaps an act of genocidal aggression against their own people. (possible false-flag) When the Assad regime falls all focus will shift to Iran.

We'll see...






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