I assume the term anti-social was taken directly from the article which was most likely publicized in The Netherlands first, where in dutch anti sociaal has a much stronger meaning not simply being anti-social but destructive and harming e.g. House disturbances.

Originally posted by destination now


So it's not really about pushing out the poor, it's about dealing with antisocial people who will create problems wherever they live

After having read each post in this thread and especially yours, I do have to say one thing.

I believe likely everyone agrees (or most do) on the reasons for it. I think the problem is one of semantics; calling it anti-social. I think each culture defines the term 'anti-social' differently internally. Some will view it as the inability to socialize, while others see it in a far darker light...as borderline criminal behaviour.

I would bet this article would have garnered far less attention had it been titled

"Borderline Criminals and Vandals Being Relocated"

Originally posted by boncho

Is this totalitarian and Orwellian social lockdown, or simply a practical solution to the issue of growing dischord in Amsterdam?

Considering they are not lining up to throw people in jail like some countries, I doubt the "scum villages" will even be that bad.

Regardless of whether or not these proposed "villages" might not be that bad,it is still a means of targetting elements of a population who have been arbritarily tagged as being without the moral composition expected of society as a whole.

Now who sets the criteria by which to determine who is deserving to be labelled anti social and thus moved to these ghettoes?,what constitutes anti social behaviour?,will it be limited to those who genuinely have been known to harrass their neighbours continuously,or will it also encompass those who are late getting to work,or not paying their bills on time?,where does it end? This could be a very slippery slope to head down.

Many people in this thread are confusing Anti-social behavior with Unsocial behavior.

Unsocial: not seeking the company of others.
Example: the guy at a party who is sitting by himself, having a drink and observing his surroundings. I've been that guy on occasion and often have girls tell me to "stop being so antisocial".

Anti-social: behavior that shows a lack of consideration for others.
Example: the guy at a party who is loud, drunk and belligerent, picks fights with other guests, vandalizes the hosts property, urinates on the bathroom floor, vomits wherever he pleases and is otherwise a nuisance in any way possible.

Now tell me how horrible the Dutch are for wanting such characters removed from their neighborhoods.

anti-social
so now you have to be "social" to live in the city
so if you do not have many friends and is not on the social media as facebook you are not very social...
you do not even have to do something as long as enough of the social group think that you are not a good element you can get evicted and put in a communist prison camp
yes i saw the nice little video of antisocial living, so when there are no more of these people drinking or playing music do You wan't to go to a party, you could get drunk, you could act antisocial, i suggest you stop drinking and also your cigarettes is not very social to others quit them too, and also your dog, its too big, get a bird instead.
the last #ing normal party will be made in an anti social trailer camp..
i do not advocate "anti social" behavior but the term is toooooooo broad
typical communist USSR or new world order communist thinking.
and all brainwashed sheep just loves the word social... instead of the word HUMAN

Originally posted by destination now
Hmmm...no responses from the "poor souls at the fringes of society who just need our help" brigade..no practical solutions or suggestions for those of us who have to live among the antisocial, just pointless soundbites

Your from Scotland i would not imagine you take crap from anyone. However a practical solution when dealing with antisocial scum, allways carry a bigger stick than they have. Whether it be your words or something with more substance. Caging them in a specific area though seems rather draconian to me. Reminiscent of Mr Hitler treatment of the jews IMHO.

This article and OP were very timely for me. The majority (if not all) the members who have contributed seem to be outside the USA...
I'm in the dead center of it.

I live in a modest home in a quiet neighborhood of working-class people; I've been here since 1999. Over the last 3 years the house next to mine has became a drug house.

It is erratically occupied by a huge extended family who have no consideration for the general peace and quiet, nor the friendliness and cooperation that has been the neighborhood norm for a long time. They are loud, abusive, disruptive, screaming at each other and their kids at all hours, there is no mom/dad/kids structure at all.

Sometimes they're gone for DAYS, then they all arrive and start with the shrieking, screaming, and loud, booming music and generally rude, belligerent, LOOK AT ME I LIVE HERE NOW behavior that is standard fare in "the ghetto".

It's horrible. The cops have been there dozens of times; so have family services, animal control, fire department....
they (the occupants) are impossible to talk to (refuse to do so), and I'm sick and tired of it. I don't live in "social housing" (we call that "public housing"), but down the road less than 1/2 mile away there IS public housing, and the siren-noise and gunfire is never-ending.

This house, though, is privately owned (mine AND the one next to mine), and the owners are MORE obnoxious, inconsiderate, rude, and hateful than most of the "public housing" people, and their dozen or so offspring are usually unsupervised and ALWAYS LOUD. Now the ghetto-behavior has spread to a few other houses (they appear to be related to one another), and I don't understand why they don't seem to get that we, the homeowners, ENJOY the peace and quiet, and they are DISTURBING THE PEACE.

I hate it. This Amsterdam plan looks to me like a great solution; except extend it to privately owned home areas, too. We pay taxes on our property and part of that is so that we (the rest of the very friendly, integrated neighborhood owners) can enjoy the peace, quiet, upkeep, and atmosphere of our modest pocket of town.......learn how to act!!

If you're going to live here.....ADAPT to the atmosphere!

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but social skills are important and necessary. Being disruptive, rude, obnoxious, inconsiderate, and loud when you KNOW that isn't the neighborhood culture, and doing it on purpose, is NOT COOL.

I want them to go away.

What a great idea. I wish they had that here in Canada. Were are experiencing a huge social breakdown because of a rapidly increasing drug culture.

Doesn't matter where you live anymore, stupidity is everywhere. You can be stabbed in a nice neighborhood for pocket change.

I was thinking more along the lines of an island, where they can enjoy living like the animals they are, or euthanize them by firing squad.

Honestly, in this overpopulated and greedy world we live in, if you can't get along with your neighbors, and can't refrain from breaking the law, then it should be curtains for you.