Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by Merriman Weir
Hey, who cares though? As long as we can't see it for now and it's other people's problems, right?
Well it's currently my problem (in fact as I speak one of my neighbours is currently shouting "bawheed" outside my door) and I don't think the majority of us who are law abiding decent people who live in this block should have to put up with the minority's behaviour and it really doesn't have anything to do with the economic environment, these people have made a choice to live like this..if you gave them a decently paid job, nice house, car etc tomorrow, they would walk out of the job, wreck the house and drive around drunk with no insurance within a month, because they do not care about anything or anyone and that is not generalising people, sadly it is a fact that there are people in society who will not change no matter what you do for them
I live in area similar to you (I live in a tower block on a 60s sink estate outside Manchester that was legally defined as 'slum' properties at one time). I also have no alternative but to live here as I've had long term health problems, on and off, all my adult life; I can't afford to live anywhere else. Also, being in a test area for Universal Credit, come April, I won't even be able to afford to live here and will probably be homeless (the government removed the legal obligation to house people with very little fanfare over the last couple of years).
Why do you think these areas are like this? Why are these areas allowed to become like this? Why is it when they're 'regenerated' it's inevitably part of a process of gentrification, and the existing residents pulled to similar areas before the gentrification?
It's a problem that has a much wider context than people will accept. It's a lot more than neighbours throwing dog # over people's fences (to quote a caller on LBC that I've just heard) whilst being pissed on 30p cans of lager. I'm not disputing that people like you describe exist at all, but I can't think of a better way to create whole generations and towns of people who will know nothing other than this behaviour and a lockdown mentality than to create the enforced ghettos that's described in the Telegraph piece. Imagine being born into somewhere like this. All your life, from being a baby, going to school in this kind of environment, and then hitting 18? What happens then? Are they removed by the authorities? After all, being of legal adult age, they're no longer under the care of the parents who were being punished by forced to live there? How well will they adapt to towns without this kind of regime and controlled environment? Will they stay and have kids of their own.