Originally posted by AKINOFTHEFIRSSTARS
*snip*Last time I checked people, especially 17 year old high school students, do not walk around and bash peoples heads into concrete. We are
turning into emotionless non-thinking machines.
Actually, a lot of kids that age and younger do such things quite often. Do a search on YouTube for school fights, if you don't believe me. It's
not a pretty thing, but it happens. Nasty fights like that were very rare when I was in school, but these days, seems we see them all over the place.
Originally posted by AKINOFTHEFIRSSTARS
*snip*What would make someone commit a crime??? What would make someone rob someone??? Environment!!!! We all know right from wrong correct. I come
from an inner-inner-city and if you look around and witness the show......I just imagine the effects that may have on a persons psyche, self worth,
pride and your sense of being.
YES, environment. Culture. Things that can be changed. It's not just how people are treated, though; it's also how they are taught to view
themselves and others. In some cultures, it seems people take more pride in being violent than being productive members of society. More effort
seems spent in looking for reasons to hate people who are different than in trying to just life a life. Not al lof the racism is directed from white
to black, you know.
Originally posted by AKINOFTHEFIRSSTARS
Out dated text books in the ran down schools never suggest that so called "blacks" had nothing to do with civilization.... and this is far from
true. *snip* Where do all of these guns come from???
History lessons are no excuse for violence. History isn't a competition; it simply is what it is, and should be taught accurately, no matter who
might be offended, and feel they didn't get "equal billing". As for the guns, well, drugs are a very common thing in inner cities, and with drugs
comes violence, and guns. Black market guns. They are far cheaper, as a rule, than those bought legally in a store. The problem is the illegal use,
though, not the guns themselves. You could have a million guns, and if the people receiving them didn't use them illegally, it would not matter.
Personal choice is the issue there.
Originally posted by AKINOFTHEFIRSSTARS
Are we really excusing the bloodshed of anyone for any reason. This is not self-defense. I can only imagine what was going through zimmermans head
that caused him to follow this young man and act the way he did. The news is a nasty tool and it can destroy ones capability of producing independent
intelligent solutions . *snip*
No, people are not "excusing" bloodshed. People are saying, on one side of the argument, that a person has the right to defend their life, and on
the other side, that a person does not have that right.
I can understand being frustrated. I didn't grow up in an inner city. I grew up in the South, not too long after all the civil rights stuff, and
while some clashes were still happening other places. My parents would sit outside with the (black) neighbors, and all would discuss the news
stories, and wonder out loud what was wrong with all those people. Most of the kids I remember from grade school, as friends, happened to be black,
and none of us cared. The only time race ever came up in any way was in a discussion over hair styles. I got to learn how to do the little cornrows.
Our moms would watch the other's kids while one did errands. No one attacked anyone else. No one worried about it. That, in the supposedly
"racist" South, where we lived till about 1975. It's the culture, not the color. I knew people with guns, too. My parents had one, because our
house was broken into several times, and other places, when someone was home, they got hurt. Fortunately, no one came back after that. If they had,
my parents would have shot to defend us. Another family friend had a houseful of guns, because he was elderly, and in an area where there were shady
characters. He never had to shoot anyone, though. He would not have, either, except to save his own life.
This Martin/Zimmerman thing isn't about some white guy shooting some black guy. It's about a man that was reporting a suspicious person to the
police, trying to cooperate with them (see some of my earlier posts), and who was attacked by that person, violently. After the attack went on, and
no help came, he did the only thing he had left to do. All of the witnesses stated that the shouting for help went on a little before the gunshot.
The one witness reported Martin on top of Zimmerman, attacking him. How is that not self defense?
