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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 10:37 PM
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reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
 


Yes amigo we shall see. But after all things are considered...

No winners, only losers. I actually feel very sorry for Z, but sometimes you just can't fix stupid and life will not be kind to him! Do you think that just maybe, maybe he regrets his decision to play the wanna be cop role?

I'm betting he is crying tonight asking himself....why
All the macho BS washed away by his tears.

This debate has been amusing but still a pity that it's because of a tragic incident; the result of ego and stupidity.

Feliz Navidad!

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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 10:43 PM
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By your own stats and simple math black people have 69% chance and white people have a 29% chance of guilt in committing a crime.
You understand that right? That is according to the numbers you gave. I am guessing that is from the latest numbers. So if you go back and check the thread where I posted numbers from earlier years they are pretty much on target.


* * Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
* When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.

You remember me posting that? Do you remember how you criticized that statement? It hasn’t changed in years because it is the same now.

Anyway I think I have done enough math tonight.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 10:46 PM
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LOL.

They sound more like Martin's? How do you know? We have never heard his voice.

The Mother is full of it too, she is the same mother that got his name and image copyrighted so no one else could use it and she could make money off of t shirt sales. It's Zimmerman's voice, that will be shown. He said "I was screaming for help" when he called 911/talked to police. He had no idea that his screams were picked up on someones phone. He wouldn't lie about that fact.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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I agree it was stupid to follow, but if you consider saving your own neck stupid we will see who makes it further in life. You (the guy that self righteously sacrifices himself so he doesn't kill someone with less life experience) or the guy that does what it takes to keep from being killed.

Incited by Martin's ego. He was the one that chose to fight someone instead of going home. Zimmerman was just overzealous about protecting his neighborhood.
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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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I was on your side of this argument for about a day or two after this story came out (if you can ever find the first thread about it you can even see me defending Martin on the first page),

I remember that! You were one of Martin's staunchest supporters.


See ya buddy,
Milt



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
* When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.



Those are not official stats..they are from a racist organization called New Century Foundation by founder Jared Taylor an advocate of racial realism which made up those stats in book called "The Color of Crime"

Racial realism a pathetically transparent attempt by bigots to rebrand racialist and racist ideologies.
Racial realism


The Color of Deception: Race, Crime and Sloppy Social Science




Taylor and his followers are either statistically illiterate, or knowingly deceive for political effect.





First, as for the disproportionate rate of violent crime committed by blacks, economic conditions explain the difference with white crime rates. According to several studies, when community and personal economic status is comparable between whites and blacks, there are no significant racial crime differences (1). In other words, the implicit message of Taylor’s report — that blacks are dangerous because they are black — is insupportable. Secondly, to claim that blacks are more dangerous than whites because of official crime rates, is to ignore that when it comes to everyday threats to personal well-being, whites far and away lead the pack in all kinds of destructive behaviors: corporate pollution, consumer fraud, violations of health and safety standards on the job, and launching wars on the basis of deceptive evidence, to name a few. Each year, far more people die because of corporate malfeasance, occupational health violations and pollution than all the street crime combined, let alone street crime committed by African Americans





A lie can travel half-way around the world while the truth is still pulling on its boots.


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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:06 PM
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Yep.. I go where common sense and evidence leads me. At that time I, like everyone else, only saw a tiny little 14 year old kid, and a mugshot. However.. I can admit when I am wrong (unlike.. well.. most people here) and I sniffed out the truth quick enough.
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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:07 PM
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Later for now..



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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Crime Rates

* Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
* When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
* Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
* The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

Interracial Crime

* Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
* Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
* Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
* Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

Gangs

* Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
* Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

Incarceration

* Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
* Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

Not that it answers your question directly it does give an idea of some of the rates.

Source(s):

Arrest data: FBI, Crime in the United States, 2001
(USGPO, 2002), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2002
(USGPO, 2003), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2003
(USGPO, 2004), p. 288
.answers.yahoo.com...


en.wikipedia.org...:Homicide_victimization_by_race.jpg[[

Everything is racist to you. Math is now racist because you do not like the results. Just wow. Aside from that please prove it came from a racist site I gave you the source 3 times already so please look it up. So far the only thing racist I have found has been your attitude.

Those stats match up exactly to the math I just did and showed you so it doesn’t matter where the numbers come from as long as they are correct so remember you gave the numbers so either you are the racist source or your source is either way it isn’t in the favor of your argument.

Nice try but no dice.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko

Originally posted by lnfideI
Case closed.

Acquitted.

Prosecutors and State attorneys sued for millions.

Zimmerman now a millionaire AND has killed a low life scumbag. Kinda like winning the lotto twice.





What makes you think he was a lowlife scumbag..because he was black, because he was wearing a hoody or was it the ice tea? Oh wait the skittles...


Also another poster said something about the ice tea being mix for alcoholic beverage....idiot..there was no mention of this.
edit on 5-12-2012 by kerazeesicko because: I CAN



Trouble in school

Wanna bee gangstah

A general low life, your cities are full of em.

You may think its a problem. I on the other hand see it as cannon fodder.

Have a nice day.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow


I agree it was stupid to follow,


Havent you ever seen someone do something real stupid and thought to yourself that guy/girl needs there ass kicked?

Well that was Zimmerman
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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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I feel like jumping ship on my own thread. It's bad when trying to correct statistics starts making me feel like im walking the line of racism..

LOL I hear ya!

That's why I didn't get involved in it. I've done the math before, and I already know it won't come out the way "kerazeesicko" wants it to.

That said:
Using ANY stats to support the idea than one race is superior to any of the others is not only intellectually dishonest, it's about as racist as one can get. Race does not determine one's character. Upbringing is the primary factor in that.

See ya buddy,
Milt

PS:
I've added you to my friends list. I hope you don't mind.
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posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi


Everything is racist to you. Math is now racist because you do not like the results. Just wow. Aside from that please prove it came from a racist site


The Color of Crime A book written by New Century Foundation.




Jared Taylor (also known as Samuel Jared Taylor) founded The New Century Foundation, a self-styled think tank known primarily for American Renaissance, a white supremacist journal and companion Website. The journal, which Taylor edits, promotes pseudoscientific studies that attempt to demonstrate the intellectual and cultural superiority of whites.





Taylor promotes his views by attacking racial, ethnic, and religious diversity, which he calls “one of the most divisive forces on the planet” and therefore “dangerous.”






The Color of Crime: Race, Crime and Violence in America, by white nationalist, Jared Taylor. Taylor is the publisher of the racist magazine, American Renaissance



Those stats come directly from this book written by Taylor.


Crime Rates
Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa. Gangs
Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely. Incarceration
Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.



those are all made up stats and it was written in 2005



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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Show me your math than..ben.

I got my stats directly from the FBI webpage. Where do you get yours, that would make it different.

Show me your work.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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Actually the cries sound more like a Martin's than anything. The mother even confirmed it sounded like him...I would believe she would know her son's voice.

That should only be determined by audio experts, not the mother. She obviously, and rightfully so, has a bias in favor of her son.

See ya,
Milt



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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That brings up a good question, if the screams are proven to be Martins does this change any Zimmermans supporters opinion.



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by hellbjorn012

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow


I agree it was stupid to follow,


Havent you ever seen someone do something real stupid and thought to yourself that guy/girl needs there ass kicked?

Well that was Zimmerman
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So you condone violence towards people that do something you don't like? That you think are stupid? Nice attitude, there.



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi


By your own stats and simple math black people have 69% chance and white people have a 29% chance of guilt in committing a crime.
You understand that right? That is according to the numbers you gave. I am guessing that is from the latest numbers. So if you go back and check the thread where I posted numbers from earlier years they are pretty much on target.


* * Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
* When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.



See you saying crime in one sentence and violent crime in another.

Actually the numbers say that it is whites are the ones more prone to violent crime.

When it to all types of crime than ..0.86 % blacks in all types of crime compared to the national data of the population and 2.11 % whites.

Amongst Caucasian Americans the percentage crimes by them are 2.74 %

Amongst the African Americans the percentage crimes by them are 6.91 %

So yes higher chance of a black turning to crime. But of overall crime then it is the whites that people should be watching out for..since they commit more by a small margin.

I have no idea where your getting 70 percent of all crime is by blacks and 20 percent by whites...when the data does not show that.
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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko
reply to post by BenReclused
 


Show me your math than..ben.

I got my stats directly from the FBI webpage. Where do you get yours, that would make it different.

Show me your work.


I used your stats to point out the facts to you, but you won't respond to that post. Gee, I wonder why that is.....

The page you posted backs up everything he said. Check my post, and get back to us.



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 12:14 AM
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