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Bloody new photo of Trayvon Martin's killer

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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by Trustfund
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
 


17 isn't an adult.



if you looked at the evidence it is self defense.


I did, and I don't believe so. Zimmerman caused the situation, he should have listened to the dispatcher and stopped trying to play sheriff when he wasn't. Z also claims he was attacked from behind which doesn't make any sense and goes against the phone call with Trayvons gf who was on the phone when the altercation started.




I highly suspect you are tainted by the media because "age is all that matters


I highly suspect you're tainted by societal stereotypes of young black men being violent troublemakers. See.....two can play this game.




So you think that becaue you are older you should sacrifice yourself and die at the hands of a teenager because their death would be more of a travesty because they have had a shorter life than you. That is what you are saying to me.


No. I'm saying you shouldn't follow people around, then get out the car and approach them. If you do so, you might activate the flight or fight response because following someone around is creepy as hell and something Jefferey Dhamer would do.






Didn't read the full thread because I had to call you out on the second time you posted this. You really think it is ok behavior to attack someone because they follow you?????? Unfortunately ignorance like this is exactly why this case blew up like it did.

(Oh, I did see your moronic response on the second page claiming someone made claims about black people...you need to seek help)




posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 08:33 PM
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[edit, double post
edit on 5-12-2012 by backwherewestarted because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by hellbjorn012
reply to post by BenReclused
 





Seems some people want to keep as much lead-way in the laws as possible when it comes to shooting unarmed people. Using a gun for there lack of physical prowess.

Having a gun seems to make otherwise cowards brave, that may ruffle feathers but it holds true to some people .


Best said quote in whole thread
edit on 5-12-2012 by hellbjorn012 because: (no reason given)

"God made man,Sam Colt made man equal."Best quote I ever heard!!



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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Contrary to popular belief not everyone who surfs the web and post on forums sit around all day doing that and playing COD and Zelda all day long. Some train and train hard. I know its surprising since 90% of America is glued to the couch but ya need to stop assuming.

To guys who stuff there face with Cheetos all day playing Xbox live and huffing when they have to get up to change battery's in the remote I can see how a unarmed Treyvon may make you fear your life. But not all of us are like this though we are def the the minority in the good ole obese USA.

LOL

It seems to me that you need to follow your own advice:

ya need to stop assuming.


See ya,
Milt



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty

Originally posted by hellbjorn012
reply to post by BenReclused
 





Seems some people want to keep as much lead-way in the laws as possible when it comes to shooting unarmed people. Using a gun for there lack of physical prowess.

Having a gun seems to make otherwise cowards brave, that may ruffle feathers but it holds true to some people .


Best said quote in whole thread
edit on 5-12-2012 by hellbjorn012 because: (no reason given)

"God made man,Sam Colt made man equal."Best quote I ever heard!!


Yep enjoy your lawyer fees and prison vacation, when you dont have a gun to protect you in prison lets see how you stop big bubba from making you his bitch



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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This is the second case in Fla where a unarmed black teenager was shot.

Kinda interesting that in 2 instances the victims were minding their own business only to be accosted by those whose immediate defense is "stand your ground"--
Who is starting these confrontations? Those with the guns!!
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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by hellbjorn012

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty

Originally posted by hellbjorn012
reply to post by BenReclused
 





Seems some people want to keep as much lead-way in the laws as possible when it comes to shooting unarmed people. Using a gun for there lack of physical prowess.

Having a gun seems to make otherwise cowards brave, that may ruffle feathers but it holds true to some people .


Best said quote in whole thread
edit on 5-12-2012 by hellbjorn012 because: (no reason given)

"God made man,Sam Colt made man equal."Best quote I ever heard!!


Yep enjoy your lawyer fees and prison vacation, when you dont have a gun to protect you in prison lets see how you stop big bubba from making you his bitch

Been there 5 years wasn't a problem.You don't know what you are talking about.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty

Originally posted by hellbjorn012

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty

Originally posted by hellbjorn012
reply to post by BenReclused
 





Seems some people want to keep as much lead-way in the laws as possible when it comes to shooting unarmed people. Using a gun for there lack of physical prowess.

Having a gun seems to make otherwise cowards brave, that may ruffle feathers but it holds true to some people .


Best said quote in whole thread
edit on 5-12-2012 by hellbjorn012 because: (no reason given)

"God made man,Sam Colt made man equal."Best quote I ever heard!!


Yep enjoy your lawyer fees and prison vacation, when you dont have a gun to protect you in prison lets see how you stop big bubba from making you his bitch

Been there 5 years wasn't a problem.You don't know what you are talking about.


Nope because there you avoid trouble if you can cause you dont have a gun to save your ass so you dont harass people or follow them around. Thats why you dont have trouble.
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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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I was sentenced to two years.Earned the extar three.I a level 7 penitentiary.Aren't you the big bad MMA guy.You wouldn't last 3 months because you play by rules.Well there are not any rules in a real fight.Now I am not getting into a "ME Tarzan" you Jane discussion.Just get out of own head and join the real world.You seem to get your info from Hollywood.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes


When you are a thug, you should be prepared to die at the hands of an armed citizen. Following someone is not justification for them to assault you. Nor was that teen "harassed". He was casing houses, in the rain, and got ticked off because he was spotted, and already in trouble back home. BTW, burglary is hurting others. It destroys their sense of security, steals their belongings, and is a crime. As for the rest? Enough with the ad hominem attacks, already. Try some valid argument.




You keep saying he was a thug...now you are saying he was casing houses...where in the hell are you getting this crap from?

The things he was suspended for is what kids get suspended for..just kids being rebellious nothing more. He was not a violent criminal and you idiots keep this pointing out and it is false. Read other sires besides white power sites...or idiots conservative blogs sites. He was never arrested for anything. He was walking to his fathers place with ice tea and skittles..not casing nothing,,stop spreading lies.

If anyone was a thug it was Zimmerman..

Zimmerman accused of domestic violence, fighting with a police officer


Police investigated Martin and his so called burglery tool...and found they was nothing to it.

Martin and his thug background...Officials also suspended him once for skipping school and tardiness...officials caught him with a 'marijuana pipe' and a baggie with drug residue...and Trayvon was kicked out of school in October for graffiti after he was allegedly caught with a 'burglary tool' and a bag full of women's jewelry.


About the last one...
Police investigated Trayvon Martin over jewelry




Miami-Dade Police confirmed that it had been asked by school police to help identify the property taken from Martin's backpack. It notified school police that the jewelry did not match any that had been reported stolen.



Hardly a hardcore gangsta...

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Decent people don't get suspended from school.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by WP4YT
 


Exactly.. People here all say they would do the same as Martin did, but I highly doubt it. I can tell you honestly what I would do as a 27 year old white male. If I noticed someone was just starting to follow me from a distance and weren't trying to be sneaky about it I would yell and ask them what they want


Too much common sense!

You should just attack concerned citizens when they follow you.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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I can guarantee Trayvon wouldn't have bashed my head against the concrete.

That's the same kind of "trash talk" my buddy was serving up, until he had his ass handed back to him.


Now if you need a gun to keep from getting killed by someone with Trayvons build who is UNARMED that just says a lot about you as a man.

I don't "need a gun", so I reckon that says absolutely nothing about me. Nice try though.


Is that easy to understand?

Because you have a problem forming proper sentences, I must admit that I did have a little difficulty with your second one. That's okay though. I don't expect any better from you.

See ya,
Milt



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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reply to post by hellbjorn012
 


Originally posted by hellbjorn012
reply to post by BenReclused
 





Seems some people want to keep as much lead-way in the laws as possible when it comes to shooting unarmed people. Using a gun for there lack of physical prowess.

Having a gun seems to make otherwise cowards brave, that may ruffle feathers but it holds true to some people .


Best said quote in whole thread
edit on 5-12-2012 by hellbjorn012 because: (no reason given)

I'm sure that seems quite intellectual to you, but the sentence structure and spelling doesn't meet my standards.

Thanks for sharing though.

See ya,
Milt



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by ker2010

Originally posted by Koros
reply to post by hellbjorn012
 


Internet tough guys are always so amusing. They are like the 400 pound armchair quarterback screaming at the coaches on Sunday, convinced that if THEY had the chance, they'd win a Super Bowl by themselves. It's so easy to say how tough you are, or would be, when you are sitting safely behind your computer screen.


Contrary to popular belief not everyone who surfs the web and post on forums sit around all day doing that and playing COD and Zelda all day long. Some train and train hard. I know its surprising since 90% of America is glued to the couch but ya need to stop assuming.

To guys who stuff there face with Cheetos all day playing Xbox live and huffing when they have to get up to change battery's in the remote I can see how a unarmed Treyvon may make you fear your life. But not all of us are like this though we are def the the minority in the good ole obese USA.
edit on 5-12-2012 by ker2010 because: (no reason given)


You're an idiot, I go to the gym everyday and I easily squat 425 for dozens of reps. I know for a fact that my physique is better than yours, I've competed, and I'm much stronger than you, I have bigger muscles no question. That means nothing as far as who will win a fight between you and I.
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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by FuZe7

Originally posted by ker2010

Originally posted by Koros
reply to post by hellbjorn012
 


Internet tough guys are always so amusing. They are like the 400 pound armchair quarterback screaming at the coaches on Sunday, convinced that if THEY had the chance, they'd win a Super Bowl by themselves. It's so easy to say how tough you are, or would be, when you are sitting safely behind your computer screen.


Contrary to popular belief not everyone who surfs the web and post on forums sit around all day doing that and playing COD and Zelda all day long. Some train and train hard. I know its surprising since 90% of America is glued to the couch but ya need to stop assuming.

To guys who stuff there face with Cheetos all day playing Xbox live and huffing when they have to get up to change battery's in the remote I can see how a unarmed Treyvon may make you fear your life. But not all of us are like this though we are def the the minority in the good ole obese USA.
edit on 5-12-2012 by ker2010 because: (no reason given)


You're an idiot, I go to the gym everyday and I easily squat 425 for dozens of reps. I know for a fact that my physique is better than yours, and I'm stronger. That means nothing as far as who will win a fight between you and I.


Did I say you and I? I said Treyvon wasn't particularly intimidating physically. A man who trains and knows how to half way fight would not have had to shoot him, If you disagree your are not half what you say you are.




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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by hellbjorn012

Originally posted by FuZe7

Originally posted by ker2010

Originally posted by Koros
reply to post by hellbjorn012
 


Internet tough guys are always so amusing. They are like the 400 pound armchair quarterback screaming at the coaches on Sunday, convinced that if THEY had the chance, they'd win a Super Bowl by themselves. It's so easy to say how tough you are, or would be, when you are sitting safely behind your computer screen.


Contrary to popular belief not everyone who surfs the web and post on forums sit around all day doing that and playing COD and Zelda all day long. Some train and train hard. I know its surprising since 90% of America is glued to the couch but ya need to stop assuming.

To guys who stuff there face with Cheetos all day playing Xbox live and huffing when they have to get up to change battery's in the remote I can see how a unarmed Treyvon may make you fear your life. But not all of us are like this though we are def the the minority in the good ole obese USA.
edit on 5-12-2012 by ker2010 because: (no reason given)


You're an idiot, I go to the gym everyday and I easily squat 425 for dozens of reps. I know for a fact that my physique is better than yours, and I'm stronger. That means nothing as far as who will win a fight between you and I.
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Did I say you and I? I said Treyvon wasn't particularly intimidating physically. A man who trains and knows how to half way fight would not have had to shoot him, If you disagree your are not half what you say you are.


edit on 5-12-2012 by hellbjorn012 because: (no reason given)


Sorry for calling you an idiot.

My point is that your physique means nothing as far as who will win in a fight, I'm sure you know this as an MMA guy.

This fight wasn't a show of whose the bigger man like people in this thread are trying to make it. Assault is serious business, life or death, and all bets are off.

If someone endangers my life, or my families life it isn't going to be a show of whose stronger or the bigger man. They're going to be dealt with like Trayvon Martin was.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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Sorry for calling you an idiot.

My point is that your physique means nothing as far as who will win in a fight, I'm sure you know this as an MMA guy.


true your physique dont but your fitness level plays a HUGE role in a fight, thats how fighters get there physique through training and cardiovascular development is a big part in who comes out on top. Why do you think they are constantly doing other training besides mat work and grappling? You got be physically fit cause it plays such a role.

Zimmer should have let the cops take it over. He was in no immediate danger he done his job in calling the cops. This wasnt a case of someone breaking in his house in the middle of the night and time was of the essence.

If he had just called the cops and let it go he wouldn't be where he is now. He had no need to follow, call the cops and let it go. No one was in danger till he followed.

SCERNARIO. I live in a subdivision of about 50 houses if i wake up at 3 am and peek out my windows and see someone in a hoodie walking the streets I am not gonna run grab my gun and follow them. Im gonna call the cops and keep looking out the window.

Unless they come on my property i have done all i needed to.
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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by hellbjorn012




Sorry for calling you an idiot.

My point is that your physique means nothing as far as who will win in a fight, I'm sure you know this as an MMA guy.


true your physique dont but your fitness level plays a HUGE role in a fight, thats how fighters get there physique through training and cardiovascular development is a big part in who comes out on top. Why do you think they are constantly doing other training besides mat work and grappling? You got be physically fit cause it plays such a role.

Treyvon should have let the cops take it over. He was in no immediate danger he done is job in calling the cops. This wasnt a case fo someone breaking in his house in the middle of the night and time was of the essence.

If h had jsut called the cops and let it go he wouldnt be where he is now. HE had no need to follow, call the cops and let it go. No one was in danger till he followed.
edit on 5-12-2012 by hellbjorn012 because: (no reason given)


He didn't break the law, or really do anything wrong. It appears he was a concerned citizen looking out for his neighborhood.

I've followed suspicious people (in my car), and called the police on them. I hope my neighbors do the same.
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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 10:19 PM
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You act like Zimmerman deserved to get murdered because he doesn't train.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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I agree you should look out. But no one knows exactly how this went down except Zimmerman. I dont know and no one in this thread knows.

Unless someone was there or did some type of remote viewing lol

The bottom line is no one in this thread knows 100% what went down and thats a fact. Hopefully the courts will get it right.

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