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Originally posted by Danbones
reply to post by Ghost375
whats one percent of the total peeps on statins again....?
science indeed
just sayin
would you link to solid scientific proof cholestorol is a proven cause of heart disease please?
thanks in advanceedit on 4-12-2012 by Danbones because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
reply to post by NavyDoc
Thank you for your input, NavyDoc.
However, why isn't the medical establishment going after the root causes of CAD? According to all that I have read, inflammation is the key factor (albeit not the only factor, but the key one).
Hyperlipidemia appears to be hereditary, of course.....but is there a reason why? Is there something in the lifestyle that causes certain individual's bodies to flood the system with cholesterol?
I'm sure there are some people who need statins. My point is, they want EVERYBODY to be on them, and are demonizing cholesterol unfairly, while ignoring root causes of CAD. I also make the assertion that, by lowering everybody's cholesterol, it is a form of soft kill.
This, to me, is the worst part of western medicine. It's all about alleviating symptoms of disease, while ignoring the actual cause. This is a good way to make money, because there is never a cure.
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
reply to post by Unity_99
Excellent point about the potassium iodide and iodine, which are vital to our thyroids.
I was just asking my husband yesterday, why do the foods that taste so darn good, are so darned bad for us? I was speaking, of course, of all the processed foods available for our consumption. I could eat a whole package of oreos, a few of those fettucine Alfredo frozen dinners, perhaps a frozen pizza or a huge cheeseburger with fries in a day, maybe a bowl of Cocoa Puffs or Cap'n Crunch, and still feel hungry (and fat as a cow) within the day. If I ate everything I liked, as much as I liked, I'm pretty sure only a crane could get me out of my house when I died a certain, early death.
The poisons are attractively packaged, taste amazing, and are exceptionally hard on our bodies. I'm not sure what the science is behind how they make this stuff addicting, but I'm sure it was years in the making.
I do the no-to-low carb diet, it is the only way I can get my appetite under control. When you eat enough foods that are truly satiating, your appetite gets under control. Unfortunately, grains are not part of it.
Originally posted by Danbones
reply to post by Ghost375
would you link to solid scientific proof cholestorol is a proven cause of heart disease please?
thanks in advanceedit on 4-12-2012 by Danbones because: (no reason given)
reply to post by Ghost375
This thread is extremely stupid and based on misconceptions about science.
Originally posted by BuffDaddy
I was given 8 different pills to take by my heart doctor, most were to lower my cholesterol. The thing is, I do not have high cholesterol. I went to see the doc because my heart was hurting one day while I was at the gym (I was sprinting like a mad man on the treadmill, doing some high-intensity interval training). I asked him why they were treating me for something I did not have and he said, "We prescribe the same regiment to all our patients for heart troubles." My diagnosis was, they did not know what was wrong with my heart. I was pretty blown away that they would prescibe me all those drugs when they did not know what was wrong. I asked him how many side effects would result from taking all those meds and he gave me a contemptuous look as though I was insulting his intelligence. I never took one pill and I never went back.
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
reply to post by Ghost375
This thread is extremely stupid and based on misconceptions about science.
You insult the thread, but provide ZERO evidence to back that point of view, which has been fairly typical of the few naysayers who have appeared on here to pass out insults but nothing else.
I think your response is stupid, and typical of people who chant the mantra of "science" but can only parrot what the television tells them.
Originally posted by heartlyte
One other important issue with statins is that in about March of 2013 the FDA added a little caution saying that statins may also cause problems with memory. Seems like a small thing but here's the rub. As mentioned in initial article, cholesterol helps with healing in the brain. Prolonged use of statins lowers this brain healing property of cholesterol and adds to plaque formation. The result is increases in dementia and Alzheimer symptoms. If you have elderly parents with these issues, look and see if they have been on statins. As an anti-aging doctor, I try to discourage statin use. I find a baby asprin, fish oil, vit d , curcumin or resveratrol are probably more heart protective than a medication. I'm not giving anyone medical advice here, but this is what I do for myself. Best indicator of longevity is in the genes. If your parents live till their nineties, you'll have a long ride. Make the best of it. Big Pharma is not here to help, just here to make money.
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
My main point in the OP is that there are too many people who are told to lower their cholesterol, without addressing the other factors that are at the root cause of their problems. And one has to wonder, why??
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
reply to post by Ghost375
This thread is extremely stupid and based on misconceptions about science.
You insult the thread, but provide ZERO evidence to back that point of view, which has been fairly typical of the few naysayers who have appeared on here to pass out insults but nothing else.
I think your response is stupid, and typical of people who chant the mantra of "science" but can only parrot what the television tells them.
May I remind you that a lot of what is passed off as "science" is, in itself, junk science, in the guise of poorly-conceived and executed studies. But you can probably dredge up something to show that I am wrong, can't you?
As I have said before, if you disagree, show me the proof that you have which completely debunks what I have put forth...that high cholesterol is a symptom, not a cause, of arterial damage. Your post is typical of the type of poster on ATS who enjoys being mean and derogatory.
If 75% of people who croak of heart attacks have normal cholesterol, then perhaps there is something to this post, after all.
Put up or shut up, Ghost.
Originally posted by rickymouse
reply to post by Asktheanimals
Yes, but the oils were contained in the nuts and seeds, etc... It is different when you eat nuts than when using peanut oil or soy oil. The nuts also contains fiber which slows the absorption of the oils. Eating sunflower seeds is a good source of oils but also contains fiber, selenium, and magnesium. Magnesium in the right proportion is needed to process these fats and selenium is an antihistamine, or if you prefer, it has antioxidant properties. We are used to eating these things because our ancestors ate them. In four to five generations we will change enough to properly process these things in our bodies.