The Biggest Lie in Medicine: The Cholesterol Conspiracy

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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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And I thank you OP, for giving me a venue to share my experiences and vent!! It scares me to think of all the people who still put blind trust into everything they're told by those in "authoritative" positions. Baaaaaaaaaa.......


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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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Thanks, Toots! I appreciate the links. Because our society is one in which we forego prevention and just deal with the symptoms of disease, it's not easy to find out all this information at once. It comes from lots of reading, research, and sometimes, suggestions from one person to another.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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You're welcome. I personally spent 2 entire days researching it after having my curiosity piqued by my vegan son mentioning it last year. He was being a bit of a smart-aleck when he said, "google it." Honestly, I think I lost a few brain cells in the process of sifting through everything I came across, but I was ready to "jump in"....and have had NO regrets since then! I'd be more than happy to share what it's done for me and my SO if you're interested. Just U2U me!



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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I was just reading an Article that the FDA is now admitting that Statins cause diabetes and memory loss.


According to the agency's website, the FDA has issued new labeling guidelines for statin drugs warning users that the medications can cause memory loss, elevated blood sugar levels, and type-2 diabetes, in addition to muscle damage and liver disease. Learn more: www.naturalnews.com...


SOURCE

Amazed at the crap BIG PHARMA will have us put into our bodies for the sake of money.
Great POST!



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Thanks Veni. I started thinking about this after my mother almost had kidney failure from statins, and my mother-in-law, who is 87 years old and has nothing more than "elevated" cholesterol, was put on them, PUSHED into taking them, and now her mind, sharp-as-a-tack just a few months ago, is now becoming Alzheimer's like. She won't listen to anybody but her doctor, who is , in my humble opinion, a total quack.

Cholesterol is a symptom, not a disease. Even in the statin commercials, when they show an animated artery with cholesterol building up in it, is showing a damaged artery, blown out and red, and then the cholesterol collects in the bubble. The animation does not show a healthy artery that is straight.

Something to consider. They know that they have to be accurate in their commercials or else they could be sued.



posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by FissionSurplus
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..... and my mother-in-law, who is 87 years old and has nothing more than "elevated" cholesterol, was put on them, PUSHED into taking them, and now her mind, sharp-as-a-tack just a few months ago, is now becoming Alzheimer's like. She won't listen to anybody but her doctor, who is , in my humble opinion, a total quack.



That statement could've been easily one of mine (verbatim), had my own MIL not died 2-years ago at the age of 87 due to her very pushy cardiologist! She actually had a rather healthy heart, considering her age. But she had a slight blockage and immediately after having an angioplasty (balloon) procedure, started bleeding internally. Things went very badly after that, and a month later she was dead!

Prior to that, I had personally gone up against this particular cardiologist when he insisted that she take only the very expensive "designer" meds, when her internist said she'd do just as well on the generics, which were more affordable. The cardiologist. about came unglued over this issue! His attitude toward me had me thinking he thought of himself as a god.......pfffffffffT
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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Quite a few of them think of themselves as infallible Gods. If they really were, they wouldn't need all that malpractice insurance!



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by FissionSurplus
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Quite a few of them think of themselves as infallible Gods. If they really were, they wouldn't need all that malpractice insurance!


In my lifetime I've only ever run across a few that put themselves on that sort of pedestal. But in spite of their degrees and years of expertise, even the best miscalculate and make mistakes. They are just humans ...... (I think)

Two years ago I was diagnosed with a life-threatening condition (due to repeat misdiagnoses) and referred to a specialist. He wasted little time in scheduling me for surgery, which also involved a pre-op surgical procedure. The surgery itself involved quite a few "what-if" risks, so I was a bit apprehensive after doing much research on all the possibilities. Thus, my "gut" feelings had me on edge, so my daughter kept telling me to relax, that "everything will be just fine." HA!

The "unthinkable" happened just after the pre-op procedure. I was exhibiting obvious signs of shock within minutes of leaving recovery. But the incompetent nursing staff did everything that was wrong for 2-hours before discovering my vitals had dropped to 70/50. It was then that they finally contacted my Dr. as I was en route STAT to the CCU. I was not expected to survive, but spent 4-days wired from head-to-toe in that ward fighting for my life due to full blown sepsis.

Returning home on the 6th day (praise be to GOD), the phone started ringing off the hook with advise from family, to sue. Looking back now, I almost wish I had. But recognizing my Dr. as a genuine God-fearing man, my conscience told me to forgive, even though it was his initial decision that had ultimately put me in that precarious position.
And no, I'm not a bible-thumping church goer.

Fast forward.....I was rescheduled two more times after that for surgery, but both times blizzard conditions prevented me from getting to the hospital.

Fast forward again.....earlier this year I underwent outpatient surgery that should have been a "slam dunk." Well, the surgery itself was, but within 36-hours of returning home things went awry and once again, human error took a serious toll on my health. This time it was due to the effects of several different antibiotics wreaking havoc on my system and I had to be admitted to the hospital again. And yet again, within a week of being discharged from that admission. What ensued after that was having to see yet another specialist due to the complications resulting from being bedridden for 2-weeks!

Is it over yet? NOPE! Do I have a lot of faith? Yes, but only in God and my instincts, this time around!

Ok, I'll get off the soap box now......






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posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 08:39 AM
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Im diabetic and have just been told i have high cholesterol , for a diabetic. For a normal person im in the normal range.The doctor has tried to put me on statin,atorvastatin,because aparantly i dont eat enough of the good fats.

More to the point i eat hardly any fat, an hardly an sugar.Yet my own body is making cholesterol, because i dont eat enough of the good fats.
A friend of mine looked into these statins an the side effects are horrendous, i have refused to take them.
Instead im going to deal with the problem myself an alter my diet to take in more good fats, Im also taking cod liver oil with omega 3 , we will see what happens.
Im sick of having chemicals given to me by my doctor which i don't really need, only to have untold side effects make me feel worse.
I recently came off a lot of tablets and am doing alot better without them .



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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So far, you're right about the body's use for cholesterol. Different forms of cholesterol are used to synthesize different processes in the cell such as, very low density lipoprotein is made in the liver and delivers fatty acids to the cell by lipase. Intermediate density lipoproteins are the result of the loss of fatty acids from very low density. Low density lipoproteins are cholesterol rich (bad cholesterol, which results in plaque) and is delivered to many tissues and macrophages (white blood cells) which is important to immune functioning. High density lipoproteins are created by the liver and small intestine. High density is the good cholesterol -- it has the lowest lipid-to-protein ration. High density lipoproteins are used for reverse cholesterol transport.
Cholesterol is a lipid-- fat and oil. Lipids are important to health, you must consume two essential fatty acids (lipids, not cholesterol): linoleic and linolenic acids because the body CANNOT make these TWO (ONLY).
Cholesterol can be completely synthesized by the liver. You do not need to consume any cholesterol to function. I quote the book, "almost every tissue in your body, especially the liver, can make cholesterol from glucose and fatty acids. Many dietary factors influence how much cholesterol you make. You obtain cholesterol from animal derived foods. Plants do produce little amounts of cholesterol. Because cholesterol is made by the body, vegans who eat no animal products are not at risk of cholesterol deficiency." ( McGuire,M. 2005. Nutritional Sciences: From Fundamentals to Food. Ed 2. 251.)
-I'm a med student.



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 05:42 PM
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Sally Fallon Morell with the truth about cholesterol.




posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 11:21 AM
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I agree 100% with your OP!
Thanks for your time and energy you put into your research!!



posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 01:24 PM
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I found this article a couple of days ago and it tells how if you combine (Vitamin B3 (Niacin) with Vitamin C)..this combination helps to lower bad cholesterol levels naturally.

Here is the article: orthomolecular.org...

I am going to try this and see what happens.



posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 03:48 PM
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RE Statins: The wife of a friend of my father's had become quasi-crippled just a month after taking a statin. They had to send her to the Mayo Clinic for a battery of tests (muscle tissue samples and multiple doctors),,,,,and $50,000 later (insurance covered most) they said that it was caused by the statin. Since she has been taken off the statins she has already shown improvement.



posted on Apr, 17 2013 @ 05:37 AM
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Sure, so continue to get fat and eat unhealthy. There won´t be any consequences of that....


Some people...



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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Interesting info just came to light.

A new survey shows that Saturated fats has no direct links to 'heart disease'.

Saturated Fats And Heart Disease: No Link Found

news.sky.com...

I really wish people would make their minds up about what is good and what isn't good. We keep seeing news related to different types of foods/drink only to find out that that specific food/drink wasn't bad for you at all...

I was just told by my nurse that I should eat less saturated fats like cheeses and cakes!



posted on Jul, 25 2014 @ 04:37 PM
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I am currently waiting for blood work results (should know Aug 20th) whether or not I have lowered my total cholesterol numbers over the last year.

Last fall my doctor wanted me to start taking Lipator as my total cholesterol was "a concern". I have never even been told that my readings were even close to borderline before and there is no real history of high cholesterol in my family. When asked why this would suddenly become an issue I was told that when I turned 55 that a new set of criteria is used when calculating the "optimal" range. I begged off on the medication and promised to improve my diet, although I haven't made great strides in the food department, I have been exercising more.

Well it has been two weeks since the lab tests and there have been no panic calls from the doctor's office asking for the name of my pharmacy. Time will tell and I will find out in as few weeks what they have to say. Fingers crossed it's good news.

Namaste,
YogaGinns



posted on Feb, 14 2015 @ 07:49 AM
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Seems you were dead on! Our government does not know anything and should not be followed. Can I now sue the Gov to pay me back for the statins my Doc has prescribed me for last 15 years? Can I sue the pharmaceutical company for the damage Simcor has done to me?



posted on Feb, 14 2015 @ 08:55 AM
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I'm so glad that I ran across this thread!

My S.O. collapsed at work in the (as he described) the "most horrific pain he has ever endured". It was on the left side of his chest. He crawled to the office, ambulance came, etc.
He went to the local ER where he was admitted overnight for eval. EKGs, enzyme tests, Xray, stress tests. EKG showed some abnormality, enzyme tests wound up being normal, Xray showed some heart damage, and they pulled him out of the stress test early. His "bad cholesterol was 611 and his "good" cholesterol was 26. They kept saying he didn't have a heart attack and they may never know what happened...??????? He is 43 years old, 5'9" and 173 lbs.

They told him the next night that he could go home and had a heart cath scheduled for 6 days later. I talked to some experts locally and they suggested a different cardio about 30 miles away so I called and they were able to get him in the day after he was scheduled in our town for the cath. They saw him, ran some tests, and scheduled the cath for the next morning.

Well, long story short, the right side is completely blocked. "It's gone" to quote the cardio. It has been that way for a long, long time he says. Now, my S.O. has uncontrolled high blood pressure for YEARS. The left side has "grown"(I'm sure that's not the right word) to supply blood to the right side. It has bypassed (the heart) itself! No surgery, thank goodness!

Finally, he is on enough blood pressure meds and blood thinners that he has been experiencing the lowest blood pressure he has ever had. BUT, he is on 60 MGs of statins every day. He now carries Nitro with him... We have begun correcting his eating. We were always eating a healthy diet at home due to having five children and one of them is diabetic. He was eating "crap" at work. He would eat out of the convenience store across the street and was addicted (yes addicted) to Little Debbie cakes and what not...he smoked and now he is trying patches, vapor cigs, etc...

I intend to study more on these statin meds and hopefully with a change of diet for him and "different" exercise, he will live a long and healthy life and NOT have to stay on these statins...

Anyway, thanks for all the info and I just wanted to share our story in the pile...




posted on Feb, 14 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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Mockingbird, I am so glad that everything worked out for your partner and that everything continues to improve. I have an uncontrollable sweet tooth myself so I can understand his addiction to Little Debbies. They are so good (as I lick my lips and eyes roll upwards).

Given that you maintain a healthy lifestyle and diet at home, it hard to believe that those sweet little treats could have such a detrimental affect on him. Is there a history of Cholesterol issues and/or heart disease in his family? If not his story will be kept in mine the next time I reach for that chocolate chip cookie or twinkie.

I don't think that the medical profession gives enough weight (pun not intended) to the effects food can have on our bodies. Please keep us informed on how everything progresses. Kudos to him for getting off the cigarettes, this is not an easy undertaking, when I quit over 10 years ago was when I gained most of my unwanted weight. Hopefully he can purge the nicotine and still maintain that healthy eating.

Also, is he physically active in his job? Happy Valentines day to you both.

Namaste,
YogaGinns

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