Well gun dealers are not psychatrists now are they?

Besides gun dealers have the right of refusal to sell to anyone.

This aint got jack to do with unstable vets it is about gun control, since they get to define "mental capacity":.

At this point- who isnt a threat?

Anyone and everyone I can think of could make the crazy list one way or another.


The Right to bear arms doesnt say "only if".

Its very simple. Vets represent the greatest threat against the establishment. Therefore it is in their best interest to disarm vets first, and disarming those with a mental illness is easy baby step one. Direct resistance will be minimal since the propaganda demonization of vets is already well under way, and most with any mental illness have been pharma'ed half to death already anyway. Ex-LEOs are going to be a close second. Watch for it.

Well, first of all anyone that has been professionaly diagnosed with a serious mental disorder shouldn't be allowed to own guns. If you are a paranoid schitzo who hears "voices" to kill people -- I don't want you having a firearm!

The second thing is, we shouldn't be using our soldiers to fight wars in places that have nothing to do with us. The level of violence and horrific crap our service members put up with needs to stop. No, they are not fighting for MY freedom -- they are fighting for oil and big money.

Having that said, would simply requiring *everyone* including vets be such a bad thing? What makes the vets so special they need their own consideration?

Is this defense bill specifying that VA doctors now would be required to submit names of vets? Don't doctors already do this for civilians?

If that is so, why do Vets get a free "pass" to own a gun? If I were to be diagnosed with a severe case of multiple personality disorder with paranoid delusions .... I doubt I'd be able to buy a gun.

Now can a veteran has that same mental health issue, he can still buy a gun because the VA won't report him? Is that how it currently works?

Professionally diagnosed with a serious mental disorder is pretty encompassing nowadays. I bet nearly have of the US population is on anti-depressants or some other psych pharma by now with the phenomenal growth in this profitable market since the 10% in '05 . Maybe thats the plan - start with vets-on-meds and then move to the general population with psych pharma scrips.

So inability to handle money = can't own a gun now?

Using that logic we should be taking away the guns from the government.

So let me get this straight. The government hasn't balanced a budget in over a decade, they continue to spend money with wreckless abandon, yet they are telling other people that can't seem to balance their finances they are mentally incompetent? (The good men and women that defended the very country they govern) I would be fine with this if they led by example and declared themselves all mentally incompetent first. How does that saying go, people who live in glass houses.

This is what you get when the majority of representatives have no experience of... anything. Career politicians/pseudo-intellectuals/ego-maniacs. The longer they spend in office as a part of the government, the more they fear American citizens.

A lot of people are being served a nice big cup of voter remorse. It shouldn't go down easy.

Originally posted by six67seven


Can't own a handgun but can own a shotgun -- or am I nitpicking??

I'm probably nitpicking

Be nice. I'm on meds.

i had a bill collector harassing me for $950 dollars for a bill that was payed by the VA . this went on for 4 years and every time the bill collector contacted me i made a police report for harassment.

At any time the bill collector could have taken me to court for the money but i would have won and likely i would have won a counter suit for harassment.

I see a bill like this being used as a threat against veterans by crooks and other lowlifes.
The crooks and lowlifes can use the threat of vets being listed as mentally incompetent to extort money from the vets.

Something else that burns the hell out of me is blaming the last decade of war for something that has been apart of warfare since men picked up sticks and stones.

Some people can handle it some people can't handle.

If they are schizophrenic or some other type of dangerous mental illness then no, they shouldn't have guns.

So these men dedicated and risked their lives to defend our country and were issued a gun by the military. Now they're saying they're not allowed to have a gun?
Something's not right about that. If they can be required to carry a gun, they should also be allowed to carry one. They've proven themselves and deserve it more than anyone else, especially the criminals.

My eyes are opened. I didn't know there was a rash of veteran related shooting that were occurring across the country. The latest headlines I read seemed it's a better idea to prevent steroid abusing jocks from owning firearms. But I'm sure it's all for our "safety".