Originally posted by xXxinfidelxXx
reply to post by CommandoJoe
Got any evidence for those claims of yours. Sounds alot to me like a straw-man argument. You think the Israelis don't do any of that? If you do, you
need to reevaluate your sources. Israel is about as much of a democracy as the States, which isn't saying much. Now, you obviously haven't been
paying attention so here's a synopsis of the point I'm making: There are bastards on both sides, but Israel gave the Palestinians no other choice
than to turn to Hamas for protection. In their desperation they turned to a truly evil organization for protection. All else is bunk as far as I'm
concerned. You can try to justify the actions of Israel all you want, but at the end of the day they were still wrong for pushing Arabs off of their
land without compensation and herding them into the massive ghettoes that we now know as Gaza and the West Bank.
Hamas killing political foes Gunmen linked to Hamas in Gaza killed at least 32 Palestinians and wounded dozens in attacks on political opponents
and alleged informers during and after Israel’s recent operation, Human Rights Watch said Monday. 18 Palestinians were killed by Hamas during the
three-week war, and 14 others were killed afterward. In addition, 49 Gazans were shot in the legs by masked gunmen between Dec. 28 and Jan. 31, and 73
had their arms or legs broken. (Arab News-Saudi Arabia)
In June 2007 Hamas fighters took control of the Gaza Strip and removed Fatah officials. The ICRC estimated that at least 118 people were killed
and more than 550 wounded during the fighting in the week up to June 15.
I could go on, but LMGTFY
I don't agree with everything Israel does, but they don't go around kneecapping their political enemies - they just badmouth each other... If they
were anything at all like Hamas, there wouldn't be Arabs holding political office in Israel, and there wouldn't be 1.5m Arab Israeli citizens living
peacefully in Israel - they would all be dead.
Israel is the only place in the region that I would want to live in right now. It's the safest, most stable, most advanced, civilized, cheap/fast
internet & cell service, and don't get me started on the women...
It's December and a few days ago it was still 80F at the beach! Although I bet the locals think I'm crazy for wearing shorts & t-shirt in December
as they are all starting to bundle up in jackets at whatnot. But I'm originally from Oregon, so even though it's starting to cool down and rain a
little, it's paradise compared to what I'm used to this time of year...
The drivers are pretty bad here though, but nothing like the chaos in Cairo...
Things are pretty quiet in the West Bank and have been for quite a while - because Hamas is not in power there, so obviously there is a choice and the
West bank is better off as a result of theirs...
Hamas is a huge part of the problem and as long as they are in power I don't think there will ever be lasting peace in Gaza.
I hope you can agree with me on at least this point: There is no perfect government - they are all corrupt and do some bad things... Just some of
them do more bad than others... And in my opinion, Hamas wins that one hands down.
Is it OK for Native Americans to start attacking US citizens from their reservations? They were treated pretty bad by the US government over the
years... How long do you think US citizens, let alone the US government would put up with that? Not years like the Israeli's have had to endure
rocket attacks from Gaza..
Many like to throw around the phrase that Hamas is the "Democratically Elected" government in Gaza, but a lot of countries (Even yours) classify
them as a terrorist organization, and to me that is all they will ever be. Sorry, but I take issue with people that try to kill me on a regular
basis. I've done nothing to any Palestinians or Hamas, but you can bet they would greatly celebrate the killing of this American living in Israel.