Ron Paul: "food stamps for the poor are minor compared to 'food stamps' for the rich".

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posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 03:09 AM
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It comes at 2:47,


You know, when I first came here in 1976 I think was under the impression that if you talk about welfare you're talkin about those people who won’t work and get foodstamps. But I have a completely different opinion now: that exists and it’s not healthy, but that’s minor compared to the “foodstamps” that the wealthy get.

More gems from the Great One known to us as Ron Paul.

I was sad to hear how disenfranchised he is with regards to running 3rd Party. I think this would have been an epic year for a Ron Paul/Gary Johnson ticket. Shame that we continue to support the 2-headed 1-Party system which has made it virtually impossible for a 3rd Party to be successful.




posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 03:12 AM
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The difference is that when it's for the poor, it's pronounced [soh-shuh-liz-uh m]


And when it's for the rich it's pronounced [bā-ˌlau̇t]
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posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 03:15 AM
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Ron Paul is just being silly

The mega billionaires and CEO's that make 200 times more than the average worker need those tax breaks and bonuses to keep hiring people.

Unemployment is at a record low, and if we raise taxes it's just going to make them stop hiring people.

Do we really want to go back to the hell hole that Clinton created during the 90's with his high taxes?
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posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 03:16 AM
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reply to post by Hawking
 

Right on.

Bailout, TARP, "defense" etc.



posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 03:19 AM
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I'm against taxing the fruits of our labor. If there have to be income taxes, I agree, the wealthy should be the ones paying.

That being said, the federal government already gets WAY too much of our money. To give them anymore would be criminal.

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posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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We must live on different planets.
The one I'm on nobody can find a job.
Rich keeping their money to create jobs...
Ever thought of going in to comedy?



posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by muse7
Ron Paul is just being silly

The mega billionaires and CEO's that make 200 times more than the average worker need those tax breaks and bonuses to keep hiring people.

Unemployment is at a record low, and if we raise taxes it's just going to make them stop hiring people.

Do we really want to go back to the hell hole that Clinton created during the 90's with his high taxes?
edit on 12/3/2012 by muse7 because: (no reason given)


The hell hole with the budgetary surplus?

Yes, that's the one we want



posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 04:33 AM
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I can't believe after his take the money and run approach to campaigning, people still listen to this guy. By the way, the Cliton years were an economic boom time. Low unemployment. High wages. Sounds like hell to me.



posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by Hawking
The difference is that when it's for the poor, it's pronounced [soh-shuh-liz-uh m]


And when it's for the rich it's pronounced [bā-ˌlau̇t]
edit on 3-12-2012 by Hawking because: (no reason given)


Close, foodstamps for the working poor are foodstamps for the shareholder in the end. If the country gives handouts to the workers so that the company can pay minimum wage it is the company whom profits from the subsidization of its very large worker base.


Originally posted by muse7
Ron Paul is just being silly

The mega billionaires and CEO's that make 200 times more than the average worker need those tax breaks and bonuses to keep hiring people.

Unemployment is at a record low, and if we raise taxes it's just going to make them stop hiring people.

Do we really want to go back to the hell hole that Clinton created during the 90's with his high taxes?
edit on 12/3/2012 by muse7 because: (no reason given)


did you forget to add this /sarcasm ?
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posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by muse7
 


We must live on different planets.
The one I'm on nobody can find a job.
Rich keeping their money to create jobs...
Ever thought of going in to comedy?




I think he forgot to use the [sarcasm] codes in his post.

Its pretty obvious if you read it again.



posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 07:59 AM
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The food stamps benefit the rich and working man just as much as the poor. How many more people work in the stores because of the food stamp program. How many more people work in the food industry because of food stamps. How many super markets rely on the extra cash from foodstamps to pay their overhead to keep their prices down. Not many people think of this when criticizing the foodstamp program. And of course, more money filters up to the top, to the big corporations of the food industries, especially the cereal companies.

When criticizing something it is important to know all the facts or you are just blowing off steam. It is better to give the poor foodstamps than cash, they help keep our food costs down. The poor blowing their income taxes on TVs is a big reason that these items are so cheap. It goes to reason that the more that are sold, the lower their price. The trickle down effect means more people have jobs. I do not agree with this building of the economy by this means except when it pertains to food because the food industry creates more real jobs here in America than the TV industry because a high percentage of the food is created here.



posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by muse7
Ron Paul is just being silly

The mega billionaires and CEO's that make 200 times more than the average worker need those tax breaks and bonuses to keep hiring people.

Unemployment is at a record low, and if we raise taxes it's just going to make them stop hiring people.

Do we really want to go back to the hell hole that Clinton created during the 90's with his high taxes?
edit on 12/3/2012 by muse7 because: (no reason given)


HAHA, I saw what you did there!

Same noise I've been screaming for sometime now, people love golden parachutes but hate that a poor single mother would get $300 a month in food vouchers.



posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by muse7
The mega billionaires and CEO's that make 200 times more than the average worker need those tax breaks and bonuses to keep hiring people.


This is sarcasm...right?

I just want to be sure. Hard to tell on this site these days.

They've been enjoying the breaks for some time now and things just got progressively worse not better.

Jobs are still just terrible.

Even Conservative economist Ben Stein just can't sing that song.


“We’re going to have to raise taxes on very, very rich people. The evidence is that there is no clear connection between the level of taxation and the level of economic activity. The biggest growth and prosperity we’ve ever had in this country was from roughly 1941 to 1973. That was the best years we’ve ever had and those were years of much higher taxes than we have now." - Ben Stein






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posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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Food Stamps are indeed job creators.

WIthout the stamps, less people shop and less clerks and tellers are needed.

See how that works. The job creator myth is beyond debunked and the fact that we still have the debate about it while there is 8% unemployment is a joke. Still having the debate is only indicative of who is really running the government.


 
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posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Hawking
The difference is that when it's for the poor, it's pronounced [soh-shuh-liz-uh m]


And when it's for the rich it's pronounced [bā-ˌlau̇t]
edit on 3-12-2012 by Hawking because: (no reason given)


Agreed. What we have now is almost Mussolini's dream... the Corporation controlling the gov't with privatized gains but socialized losses.

We "won" WWII... right?

Derek



posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by muse7
Ron Paul is just being silly

The mega billionaires and CEO's that make 200 times more than the average worker need those tax breaks and bonuses to keep hiring people.

Unemployment is at a record low, and if we raise taxes it's just going to make them stop hiring people.

Do we really want to go back to the hell hole that Clinton created during the 90's with his high taxes?
edit on 12/3/2012 by muse7 because: (no reason given)


Yes we need to give tax breaks to coprorations like walmart to continue crushing small business and making those ex business owners into minimum wage NOT fulltime employees in wally world.

We need to give them breaks so they can continue to spread that business.



I can be a job maker too. I can hire people to come clean my house for a dollar a week. give me a few tax breaks and I can expand that model all over the country! weee i am creating jobs!!! weeeee



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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Ron Paul is THE ONLY reasonable republican out of the entire republican party that is high profile. He is the god of the republican party. Too bad he got cheated the republican nomination from that sleazy scumbag called romney.

People need to SERIOUSLY CONSIDER voting for constitution, green, libertarian, or even socialist party come next election. That is if obama does not screw up the nation to the point of him also declaring martial law and elections indefinitely postponed. This is no joke guys....look at the middle east and what desperate leaders do to stay in power. You think america is really a democracy, much less a better democracy than the middle east?



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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Ron Paul needs to advocate for universal Medicare. If we'd have it like the rest of the civilized industrialized world then our jobs would stay here instead of going to Asia. And we'd be spending far less on medicaid as well as food stamps because businesses would hire more because they wouldn't have to think about healthcare or dodging healthcare mandates.

Speaking of jobs and Asia - we need to reform the tax code for businesses so that we apply windfall taxes or even suspend the corporation charter for corporations that reduced more than 10% of the US workforce AND added more than 10% workers anywhere not in the US - during the past 5 years. The only way they could be absolved of this surtax would be for them to bring back those 10% of jobs within the next year - and they would have to use ALL that money that they get to keep for hiring those people back in the US. Corporations are making record profits with Asian slave labor and sitting on record cash income in overseas accounts waiting for a tax holiday. We need to stop this corporate welfare!

Haha good joke, will never happen!



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by DarkSecret
Ron Paul needs to advocate for universal Medicare. If we'd have it like the rest of the civilized industrialized world then our jobs would stay here instead of going to Asia. And we'd be spending far less on medicaid as well as food stamps because businesses would hire more because they wouldn't have to think about healthcare or dodging healthcare mandates.

Speaking of jobs and Asia - we need to reform the tax code for businesses so that we apply windfall taxes or even suspend the corporation charter for corporations that reduced more than 10% of the US workforce AND added more than 10% workers anywhere not in the US - during the past 5 years. The only way they could be absolved of this surtax would be for them to bring back those 10% of jobs within the next year - and they would have to use ALL that money that they get to keep for hiring those people back in the US. Corporations are making record profits with Asian slave labor and sitting on record cash income in overseas accounts waiting for a tax holiday. We need to stop this corporate welfare!

Haha good joke, will never happen!


Ron Paul doesn't advocate forcefully taking money from others to fund another person's liabilities.


And on another point, this is the great thing about Ron Paul, he is fair in what he says.

If the right wants to bish at the left for socialized benefits, then they can't get their precious bailouts and vice versa for the left.

Nobody on the left or middle, top or bottom can attack Ron Paul for what he said in the title of this OP but they do attack him when little snippets of his 'truth bombs' aren't yet realized.


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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by eLPresidente
Nobody on the left or middle, top or bottom can attack Ron Paul for what he said in the title of this OP but they do attack him when little snippets of his 'truth bombs' aren't yet realized.


I'm a supporter of RP and I wasn't attacking him If he were to run as a third party he would win the 5% needed to promote that party in the TV debates alongside with the 2 main parties.





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