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Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
As far as antiquated rights go, I think freedom of the press and speech is over rated too. The founders couldn't have imagined the free-for-all dialogue that is the Internet. No, they lived in the age of civil discourse and the occasional duel. Imagine how insane it would be to allow the common people to opine on things that only powerful and wise men should decide for us!
Originally posted by Tarzan the apeman.
reply to post by Beaux
You ever bow hunt bear? It is kinda hard to carry a rifle and a bow. That is why people carry pistols and another reason why they own them. Bear could be hunting you while your hunting it even if you use bait.(Twinkies)
Originally posted by sensible1
reply to post by CosmicCitizen
Costas is right. This is like the tobacco industries denial of cigarettes causing cancer.. We have the largest gun culture and gun ownership per capita and the largest percent of gun deaths per capita.. Its a undeniable stat. And they are Absolutely related. The gun rights lobby has taen advantage of our constitution to make money for an industry that kills people indiscriminantly.. Use of the product kills people. Yes, people have individual responsibility, but use of the product kills people and therefore must be tightly controlled. Right now, it is completely out of control.. Our founding fathers would change the constitution after viewing this debacle so people would not desicrate the constituition to make money for this industry out of irrational fear of guns "being taken away". limits on personal gun ownership need to be in effect, and more National controls need to be in effect.
Originally posted by Trustfund
No one is taking away your guns.
Especially as long as the corporate gun lobby (NRA) is bribing politicians strong.
Originally posted by sensible1
reply to post by CosmicCitizen
Costas is right. This is like the tobacco industries denial of cigarettes causing cancer.. We have the largest gun culture and gun ownership per capita and the largest percent of gun deaths per capita.. Its a undeniable stat. And they are Absolutely related.
Originally posted by vor78
Originally posted by sensible1
reply to post by CosmicCitizen
Costas is right. This is like the tobacco industries denial of cigarettes causing cancer.. We have the largest gun culture and gun ownership per capita and the largest percent of gun deaths per capita.. Its a undeniable stat. And they are Absolutely related.
Are they related? I'm not so sure. As it turns out, most of the rural areas of this country...you know, the ones that typically have the highest rates of gun ownership...tend to have fairly low homicide rates. Compare that to cities with strict gun bans such as Chicago, Baltimore and Washington DC. That latter group will have homicide rates as much as 10 times higher.
Guns aren't the problem and neither are about a hundred million responsible gun owners. You won't accomplish anything with a gun ban except to turn responsible, law abiding citizens into criminals. The others who already had criminal intent aren't going to care about your gun ban, and there's more than enough evidence of that in the example cities provided.edit on 5-12-2012 by vor78 because: (no reason given)