Originally posted by undo
can you explain this comment? cause to be honest, i've had enough discomfort to last many people's lifetimes. i'm getting real tired of seeing
comments that suggest this path is some pampered cake walk, cause it hasn't been so for me nor my family members.
Sure. First of all I would like to make it clear that my comment was not a blanket all encompassing statement regarding Christians or any other
belief system. It is though something that I see far too much of.
And I agree for a true believer the path is not easy and sometimes it's difficult to follow such a path when you see those who don't share your
belief's seemingly getting all the breaks.
Here is my explanation. Central to the Christian belief system is a belief in Jesus and his teachings in the New Testament. In the Old Testament God
instructed his believers to kill people for any manner of things, and not by gentle humane means but by stoning them to death etc. In the New
Testament Jesus instructed his disciples that they were no longer to pass judgement on others, that they were not without sin and were not worthy of
passing judgement upon others, he made it clear that this was now something that only HE and his Father were were worthy of.
He instructed his disciples how to spread the message he came to give by his words and his actions. In his teachings he told them that he wanted all
people to receive the message and gift he came to give. He taught them to bring those who had not yet found their way to him with kindness,
compassion, and love. He himself did not turn his back and shield himself from being exposed to sin and sinners instead he showed by his example that
he did not wish for his disciples to shield themselves from sin and sinners either
Mark 2:15 - 17
15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there
were many, and they followed him.
16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with
publicans and sinners?
17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the
righteous, but sinners to repentance.
45 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
46 He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses of these
49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”
It is clear that he did not want his disciples to shield themselves from sinners, or to force sinners to falsely behave as if they believed. He told
them that the laws handed down in the Old Testament still pertained to his believers, he did not teach them to force non-believers to obey these laws,
to paint a pretty picture that everything is light and sweet and joy all around, when such was not the case. It was not the outward behavior without
belief that he wanted of the world, he wanted everyone to accept him of their own free will.
Now consider what we are seeing in the news, in the forums and so forth especially regarding issues such as gay rights, and people desiring that a
Christian president be elected so that he will force non-believers to conform to those laws expected of believers, without that same faith. Consider
the previous election when Mike Huckabee proclaimed that he intended to make the Constitution more Christian and gained quite a following hoping he
would do so. Think about how people responded to Obama when he stated that although he was a Christian, as President he swore an oath to follow the
Constitution....People have been proclaiming since that he definitely is not Christian, but he swore to uphold the Constitution he cannot just order
that from that time forward the entire country had to live as Christians, that would be treason as he would be violating his oath.
Forcing actions without belief has a greater power to push people farther away from accepting him, which directly opposes His plan, what He desires
and what he tasked his disciples with. Yet that is what many people who claim to be Christians are trying to do. Consider the subject of gay
marriage, if they are not believers those laws do not apply to them, it is only when they come to accept Him they are expected to follow those laws.
People proclaiming to be Christians are publicly stating that they don't want their children to see gay people. But shielding them from and
ostracizing sinner's who He has asked His followers to guide to Him does not serve him it eases their discomfort facing sin.