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Originally posted by Prezbo369
Originally posted by undo
soo, what atheist leaders can we examine and find out if they were really atheists? cause i think that's a pertinent question. if it turns out they were say, buddhists (LOL!!!! yes i know how unlikely that is, just saying)
Atheist leaders? not sure how you'd qualiify that, the ones with the most twitter followers? the most facebook likes? the most books published? what?
And BTW, Buddhists are atheists........this is what I meant by taking the time to learn about the subjects you choose to talk about before posting....
he doesn't have to wrestle with concepts like what may happen to him after he dies. he thinks he and everyone he has abused, just turns to dirt and that's the end of it. without a value above that of fatty tissues and connective tissues
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by undo
he doesn't have to wrestle with concepts like what may happen to him after he dies. he thinks he and everyone he has abused, just turns to dirt and that's the end of it. without a value above that of fatty tissues and connective tissues
It really seems like what you're saying is this.
If you're an atheist you have no meaning in life and therefore no grounds for morality.
Yay or nay?
Definition of RELIGION
1 a : the state of a religious
b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Examples of RELIGION
Many people turn to religion for comfort in a time of crisis.
There are many religions, such as Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, and Judaism.
Shinto is a religion that is unique to Japan.
Hockey is a religion in Canada.
Politics are a religion to him.
Where I live, high school football is religion.
Food is religion in this house[/ex]
#4 within the definitions would be a suitable fit for atheism. The items bolded in the examples show that people view religion in different ways.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by undo
So going by what you are putting forth we do not need religion but a good philosophy but that will have no bearing on psychopaths because they can be found in all walks of life be it religious or not.
I can agree on that. Atheism has nothing to do with being a psychopath or not.
I am glad we can agree on that.
Originally posted by undo
i know buddhists are atheists.
notice i prefaced my statements above by stating that atheists are not psychopaths, but the reasoning, the rationale of not having any purpose but survival of the fittest (in the social sense), rubber stamps atheist leaders.
the scientists during the starving to the death of the ukraine, said they were interested to see how the people (who were apparently catholics) would respond, morally, to starvation. they wondered if they would cave in and eat each other, cannabalize each other, and stalin was interested in the concept of forcing them to realize that their prayers were not going to save them because god wasn't real, only their dear leader was. i can get exact quotes if you'd like.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by Pixiefyre
Atheists believe in a wide range of things however the only thing that is required to be considered an atheist is that they do not believe in deities. It is as simple as that.
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Originally posted by Pixiefyre
Based on the Merriam Webster online dictionary, I would have to say that yes atheism is a religion of sorts
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Originally posted by undo
ever watch a cat play with its "food"? most of the time they don't even eat it. it's just for the sport of killing. cats are awesome to humans, but, at the end of the day, they are totally ruthless because they are instinctually programmed to do things like hone their hunting skills at the expense of little rodents and so forth. just elevate that a few notches and you got the same thing in leadership when there's no socially moral position for them to maintain above survival.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by Pixiefyre
It isn’t a principle it is the default setting when you are born. By your reasoning Babies have a religion when they are born.
Originally posted by undo
reply to [url= by Prezbo369[/url]
okay, let me simplify this by asking you: what effect does the moral or ethical stance of a leader have on their decisions?
Originally posted by Pixiefyre
reply to post by Grimpachi
Not really, because babies don't have the ability to hold onto the principle that there are no deities with ardor and faith.