Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
Even if you are right about the color, what exactly is the absolute evidence that this comet is what the prophecy is referring to. Can it not be
The description of what happened to holmes is pretty much as the prophecy said would occur. For the Hopi Kachinas are spirits, many times these
spirits manifest themselves in different ways including to give messages to those who would heed such warnings.
The sawa sohu kachina was said to occur near the end of the 13th baktum, and after it the red kachina would make it's appearance. these are called
the times of purification.
The sawa sohu kachina would appear as a blue/blue-green star, literaly sawa means blue-green, but the name blue star has been dubbed for this kachina.
It was written that the sawa sohu would shed it's mask, the comet exploded and this caused it to brighten half a million times more than it's
original brightness, and the particles of the explosions made the comet look like it was bigger than the Sun. During this event the comet shone
In fact I can link to my comments years past about this event which clearly shows people like you are once again trying to twist the truth for
whatever reason you have.
For example, the following I posted in 2009...
Is The Hopi’s “Blu Kachina” approaching?
They already said the Blue star Kachina was comet Holmes, when it exploded to be millions of times bigger, and became the biggest object in the Solar
System, even bigger than the Sun, and it brightened to a point that it could be seen with the naked eye in 2007.
The purification began with the appearance of the Blue star Kachina, in 2007, and will continue until 2014.
The Hopi prophecy states the blue Kachina would remove it's mask, as in the ceremonial dances they perform, and in fact that is what Holmes did.
It exploded, and part of it's exterior expanded in the form of dust to be millions of times larger than it's original size, and half a million times
brighter than it was originally.
It became very bright, to a point that it could be seen on Earth with the naked eye.
A spectacular explosion caused comet 17P/Holmes to increase in size and brightness on October 24. The comet is now a half a million times brighter
than before the eruption began. It continues to expand and is now the largest single object in the Solar system, being bigger than the Sun. The
eruption continues at a steady 0.5 km/sec (1100 mph) rate. Holmes is still visible to the naked eye as a fuzzy star anytime after dark, high in the
northeast sky. It is faintly visible from cities, and from dark country locations is truly remarkable.
This is an astounding story. When an object suddenly, unexpectedly, appears in our solar system THAT IS BIGGER THAN THE SUN, and can be seen with the
naked eye, and is BLUE, it could be one of those heavenly events like the Star of Bethlehem that foretell coming events. I would also call your
attention to the seven seals in Revelations (I'll write more about that when I have time.)
(Adding the following)
The following photo shows the actual size comparison between the sawa sohu kachina and the sun.
The blue ball on the left is comet Holmes.
The above link includes the Hopi prophecies.
"The return of the Blue Star (also known as Nan ga sohu Katchina) will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and new way of
life, a new world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires
and conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life.
"Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier the Red Katchina, who will bring the Day of Purification. On this day the Earth, her
creatures and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave
messages to those on Earth who remember the old ways.
" The messages will be found written in the living stone, through the sacred grains, and even the waters. (these could be the crop circles which have
been found even in ice) From the Purifier will issue forth a great Red Light. All things will change in their manner of being. Every living thing will
be offered the opportunity to change from the largest to the smallest thing."
What follows are two longer expositions of Hopi prophecy. Note that the events listed below were predicted many centuries ago and have been passed
down. They were also all carved into Prophecy Rock at Hopi many, many years ago:
The Nine Signs of Hopi Prophecy
From White Feather, Bear Clan, Hopi Tribe
"These are the Signs that great destruction is here: The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle people in other lands -- those who
possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as the white man has made in the deserts not far from here.
Those who stay and live in the places of the Hopi shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon, very soon afterward, Pahana will
return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in our hearts. Even now the seeds are being
planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World."
The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled,
and so few are left.
First Sign: We were told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana -- men who took the land that was not
theirs and who struck their enemies with thunder. (Guns)
Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. (Covered wagons)
Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. (Longhorn cattle)
Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron. (Railroad tracks)
Fifth Sign: The land shall be cris-crossed by a giant spider's web. (Power and telephone lines)
Sixth Sign: The land shall be cris-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun. (Concrete roads and their mirage-producing
Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it. (Oil spills)
Eighth Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like our people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn our ways and
Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear
as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the Hopi people will cease.
The following is an excerpt from LAST CRY Native American Prophecies & Tales of the End Times, by Dr. Robert Ghost Wolf © 1994-2004:
"The story of the Blue Kachina is a very old story, very old. I have been aware of the story of the Blue Kachina since I was very young.
Frank Waters also wrote about Saquasohuh, the Blue Star Kachina in The Book of the Hopi, The story came from Grandfather Dan, Oldest Hopi.
"It was told to me that first the Blue Kachina would start to be seen at the dances, and would make his appearance known to the children in the plaza
during the night dance. This event would tell us that the end times are very near. Then the Blue Star Kachina would physically appear in our heavens
which would mean that we were in the end times.
"In the Final days we will look up in our heavens and we will witness the return of the two brothers who helped create this world in the birthing
time. Poganghoya is the guardian of our North Pole and his Brother Palongawhoya is the guardian of the South pole. In the final days the Blue Star
Katchina will come to be with his nephews and they will return the Earth to its natural rotation which is counter clock wise.
"This fact is evidenced in many petraglyphs that speak of the Zodiac, and within the Mayan and Egyptian pyramids. The rotation of the Earth has been
manipulated by not so benevolent Star beings. The twins will be seen in our North Western skies. They will come and visit to see who still remembered
the original teachings flying in their Patuwvotas, or flying shields. They will bring many of their star family with them in the final days.
"The return of the Blue Star Katchina who is also known as Nan ga sohu will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and new way of life, a new
world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires and
conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life.
" Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier The Red Katchina, who will bring the Day of Purification. On this day the Earth, her creatures
and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave messages
to those on Earth who remember the old ways.
Next to come will be the Red Kachina, which I believe will be what is called Nibiru, but again I could be wrong.
However I showed in several threads, as well as other members, that there have been unexplained phenomenon occurring, that can only be cause by some
very large object, and this planetary ogject, whatever it is, is so powerful that the AU between the Sun and the planets, the distance between them,
has suddenly been increasing. This same planetary object is what was causing the pioneer anomalies, as well as making comets arrive earlier on their
voyage towards the inner Solar System than they were supposed to.
Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
You went on before about solar flares and a magnetic pole shift. What exactly does that have to do with the prophecy? Did the prophecy say that would
What?... Can you show me what you claim I wrote please?... I think you are trying to once again twist the facts.
Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
I think you REALLY want to make this prophecy to be valid and applicable to our times, your time. The years you have spent talking about it wont let
you simply say, "you know what, maybe I was wrong"....
How could we think less of you for just admitting your lack of absolute concrete evidence?
Why go through all this? I just dont see the point.
So you have no proof of what you CLAIM I wrote but still you want me to admit to a lie that YOU are creating?...
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