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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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Prophecies

Just as there are various versions of the Hopi creation mythology, there are various versions of the prophecy, reported by different authors at different times. Note: According to statements made by the Hopi themselves, none of the currently publicized "Hopi Prophecies" actually originate with the Hopi. The closest to the genuine beliefs of the Hopi themselves would be the statements made by Thomas Banacyca to the United Nations. In this version, the Hopi are warning against continued armament by the great nations, stating that it will lead to another world war.

The Hopi do not discuss their beliefs with outsiders.



Criticism
The so-called "signs of the Hopi Apocalypse" (which are falsely attributed to the Hopi) read like a middle school American History text book with a particular emphasis on the ill-deeds of the white man. Consequently, they seem little more than elements an elaborate revenge fantasy, quite possibly even fabricated by a white person who felt sympathy for the native peoples' plight or simply disgust at his or her own peoples' greed. In addition, the 'prophecies' were first published in 1959, and subsequent publications have added more detail.


www.2012hoax.org...

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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by zedVSzardoz

um,?

I have provided PROOF of evidence of everything I wrote backed by NASA, satellite info, and other such resources..., more than any evidence and implied interpretation you guys are going with.

I wanted to be cordial, but since you want to be confrontational, please provide to me the source of your supposed Hopi myth......I think you are a liar.


You didn't prove anything at all... All you did was make claims without providing one iota of proof, or evidence.

BTW, I really don't care what you think of me, claiming that I am lying doesn't make it so...



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 07:39 AM
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hopi.org...

not one mention of your prophecies in that official Hopi page or its affiliates....

I guess you guys know more than the Hopi Indians about Hopi Indian myths....
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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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can you not read?

This thread is longer than the point when you jumped in to be rude. What exactly where you responding to? my posts, or just me somehow before I posted? I provided official data based of satellite info and professional observations.

you made a claim that you supposedly "researched" yet it is not so, so either you did no research and are a liar, or did bad research and are dumb.

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:03 AM
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Seriously?... Are you one of those people who believes everything written in the internet is true?...

You are not the first person to make this same claim and post that same website.

I can post websites of people claiming they saw Elvis... does it make it real?...

You have a website of a non-native American claiming there is no such prophecy...



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Except I have also provided a statement from the Hopi that says to not trust any "prophecies" that come from non-Hopi. The earliest references to the Blue Kachina prophecy come from one of two white men. To this day I do not think a single Hopi has come forward and confirmed the prophecy as legitimate.



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
hopi.org...

not one mention of your prophecies in that official Hopi page or its affiliates....

I guess you guys know more than the Hopi Indians about Hopi Indian myths....


You obviously have no idea on how to research...


Manataka American Indian Council


FULFILLMENT Of
The HOPI BEAR CLAN PROPHESY

www.manataka.org...

www.manataka.org...



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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...
"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.
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www.manataka.org...



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:19 AM
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Hopi prophecy states that World War III will be started by the people who first received the Light -- China, Palestine, India and Africa. When the war comes, the United States will be destroyed by "gourds of ashes" which will fall to the ground, boiling the rivers and burning the earth, where no grass will grow for many years, and causing a disease that no medicine can cure. This can only mean nuclear or atomic bombs; no other weapon causes such effects. Bomb shelters will be useless, for "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of Life. There is no shelter for evil. When the Saquahuh (blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask, the time of the great trial will be here." The Hopi believe that only they will be saved.
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www.manataka.org...



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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da fudge does that have to do with solar flares, magnetic fields, or CME´s?

I already stated that they think it is related to a great war, not the end of the world.......DUH...


care to tie them together? Your end of the world crap to this? This should be fun.


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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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This is not the first time some member has claimed this same thing. I have posted in the past links to other Hopi websites in which the blue star kachina/katsina prophecy is found.

We even have had members claim that the Hopi have no prophecies at all despite evidence like Prophecy Rock...




posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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non American Indian?

Hopi.org, is non American Indian?

oh, ok.....



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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So your source is an organization that the AIHSC says is guilty of fraud? In fact the MAIC are so devious they hijacked the AIHSC in a Canadian web server to make it look like their "Indian weddings" are coming from a legitimate source. Follow your own advice. Do research.

Beware! Suspected Groups and Individuals



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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HOW DOES THIS RELATE WITH THE END OF THE WORLD?

It is a warning against war.....?!?!



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
da fudge does that have to do with solar flares magnetism, or CME´s?

I already stated that they think it is related to a new great war, not the end of the world.......DUH...


care to tie them together? Your end of the world crap to this? This should be fun.


You are obviously extremely young. Do show me where I wrote the Hopi prophecies talk about "the end of the world"?...

The one lying, and making crap up is you...
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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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so what exactly is your point?

Why are you posting in a Mayan 2012 thread about the F-ing doomsday saying the Hopi prophecies are related somehow, when now you say you weren't?

You must be a *snip* since you are just reacting to everything people are stating with nonsensical BS that is not even clear to you...

Whats your point darling?

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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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They say "suspected". Don't twist what they actually write.

Are there scams? Yes, there are.



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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One of the things that is very possible for that day, or around that date is a large war. Large as in Israel attacking Iran, and then Russia, China, NK, Syria, etc siding with Iran, Japan, U.S.A., England siding with Israel. Something along those lines, since according to the real prophecies on that date part of what will happen is that the Mayan god, Bolon Yokte, associated with war and creation will descend from the heavens as we finish this Baktun and enter into the next. We are on the 13th Baktun and on December 21st we enter the 14th Baktun.

There are also the HOPI prophecies which say that if during this time frame people are not ready to be in harmony with nature those who are not ready will not survive, and literally those not ready will go crazy and die.


More than likely nothing will happen EXACTLY on December 21st, and it will be just the date of the transit from one baktun into the next.

But what people need to realize, and put together is everything that is happening.

1.The Earth's magnetic field is now weaker than it has been in over 400,000-700,000 years.



The more to the left the graph gets the closer to the present it is. The red points of data above are showing the strength in the weakening fluctuation the Earth's magnetic field has been experiencing.


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Scientists say earth's magnetic field is weakening and could all but disappear in as little as 500 years as a precursor to flipping upside down.

It has happened before - the geological record suggests the magnetic field has reversed every 250,000 years, meaning that, with the last event 800,000 years ago, another would seem to be overdue.

"Magnetic north has migrated more than 1,500 kilometres over the past century," said Conall Mac Niocaill, an earth scientist at Oxford University. "In the past 150 years, the strength of the magnetic field has lessened by 10 percent, which could indicate a reversal is on the cards."

While the effects are hard to predict, the consequences may be enormous. The loss of the magnetic field on Mars billions of years ago put paid to life on the planet if there ever was any, scientists say.

Mac Niocaill said Mars probably lost its magnetic field 3.5-4.0 billion years ago, based on observations that rocks in the planet's southern hemisphere have magnetisation.
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www.reuters.com...

2. Because of the weakening magnetic field of Earth large breaches are occurring which allow the Earth in those regions where the breaches open to be bombarded more than usual by the Sun, and other sources outside the Solar System.


A Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field
12.16.2008

Dec. 16, 2008: NASAs five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earths magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to "load up" the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed at the strange and unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics.

"At first I didn't believe it," says THEMIS project scientist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "This finding fundamentally alters our understanding of the solar wind-magnetosphere interaction."
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science.nasa.gov...


you posted this crap about a Mayan God returning and magnetic nonsense you have no idea about and tried to tie it together with the Mayan prophecies using the Hopi ones.......

You are an *snip* IMO.....that is such BS and nonsense I do not know where to even start....

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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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If you don't know what I have been saying, then do yourself a favor and read my responses boy...

BTW, don't assume that I am a woman because I have a photo of my girlfriend as my avatar...



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 08:40 AM
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I assume nothing. That is your job....

What I think you are is applicable to both sexes....


Your insanity and dribble backed by nonsense has decreased the quality of this thread...

C ya the day after bub...

EDIT:
how old do you assume I am....boy...?


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