The Son of Man has returned .. Spread the word !

Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
If god was so wise, and his son failed the first time, why wouldn't he send a daughter the next time around. This bible crap cracks me up though ^^


also if he comes back to life in any form again, wouldn't that mean reincarnation? Which I thought once you died you went to heaven or hell or where ever for all eternity?

Jesus didn't fail, and he resurrected in his own body. There is no reincarnation.

reply to post by Ben81


Ben, do you mean, spread the word.. like.. on some bread? or what?

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


I know you believe that, and so do many fundamentalists, and many Catholics/Protestants throughout the world, though have had some pretty interesting conversations with my Catholic relatives growing up and they don't follow the Pope's directives and tend to have their own opinions and some of them question alot.

Nonetheless, there are also other gnostic Christians, who have survived all the persecutions, and there are many who don't agree with this and believe Mary Magdeline was not a prostitute, was indeed a wealthy woman who supported him in his ministry and was his wife. Some believe Christ is a metaphor altogether.

I'm a Christian whether he is real or metaphor based on all the different meanings, except for the dark side coding and their insanity.

Luke wrote a lot of the new testament and he put some coding in it as well. Some stuff is very interesting. There is a difference between Peter and Paul, Peter/James was the gnostic, Paul was the Roman Trojan Horse.

www.thenazareneway.com...

But you don't have believe that at all.

No matter what you believe or what another may believe it doesnt matter(and even in our Catholic Family there was quite a difference).

Christ did say, that all the he did, we can do and greater.

He spoke of the living waters and that the kingdom of heaven lay within.

We're still supposed to be akin to what one would call the second coming ourselves and really empty our cups from this world, and start to see with Love.

For example we don't perceive correctly. We judge every situation and ourselves even by what our neighbors think, what seems successful.

So my own house filled with 5 boys, one foster older teen and tons his friends, that is crazy at the best of times, nerve wracking and I keep pausing as I get upset and wishing not to lower frequency, caught up in this madhouse, and finding the teens go around collecting cigarette butts all over town. One kid, his father literally thinks he can lock the door on them during the day and kicked him out, so he moved in, without permission from me, but was eating all my cereal, and a weeks worth of food lasted a few days, and I told him over and over to phone his dad, go home, but that didn't work. Nor would I phone the authorities, I don't hand kids over to Darth Vader. One of the foster kids shared how the BC government was filming child porn with the foster kids.

So, here safe, playing video games upstairs, beautiful boys. I want to set up an eco farm for them if the door ever opens. And for others like them. And I did get that kid back mostly with his dad, and want to talk to the step mother. I don't care if they trust him or not, he's their problem legally, they have to deal with him, they're not allowed to lock their dependents out of the house. You get counciling and go through the messy hoops of life, but you don't have the right to dump that on other people, like they do.

So I don't see this as a ideal situation.

But, had a vision hit me over the head a few days ago, maybe a week.

I saw a lense, a round thing almost like a camera lense, slide off our property. And underneath it was just all Lovey Glowey stuff. It was glowing and shining unconditional Love. And when I went, No Way!!!!!! Immediately the thought flooded: We don't perceive reality correctly here. Its not the outer that counts at all. The reality was a whole bunch of kids were safe, loved unconditonally, kept off the streets, respected.

So the issues are not whether Christ was married. Some of my Catholic relatives think the pope is wrong and he was. Its becoming like unto him.

When Christ returns, everyone will know it. It won't be mistaken.

Matthew 24: 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Originally posted by Seede
reply to post by CudiTheKid

 

@ CudiTheKid

From my own experience I have found that you are correct when you say that most people don’t like to be preached at. Most folks like a simple explanation and not a lengthy sermon. So with that in mind I will try to explain what true Christianity does teach.

Allow me to share my view and picture of what I see in my minds eye and comment on some things as I follow along with what your saying. Keep in mind that it is a glimpse of imagination not requiring it to make any sense or have order.

Firstly, Jesus was and is not God. Most people do not understand substance change. Jesus was substance change. While in the spiritual world (out of this universe) He was The Word. Meaning that He was the visibility of the Spirit Creator.

I propose that Christ is an energy construct based on that he is The Word, a thought.

Being brought forth into His own creation, He came in the flesh of that substance in which is of this universe.

The essence of the Christ energy manifests as Jesus the man. (I believe the Christ energy can manifest as many things Jesus being one of them.)

We are in His creation and image (as The Word) and not that He is in our image. Therefore His substance change from celestial to terrestrial is our understanding of Him being the son of man called Jesus.

I will use a simile to describe what I see. Like a large magnetic rock, the word that exists, is pure, so is Christ. Jesus the man is like a Neodymium magnet portion that has cut from a much larger rock called Christ. The portion taken from the larger rock develops it’s own new frequency and strength in polarity. In a similar fashion the gift of Christ energy manifested on Earth created an alignment of minds and souls as the proverbial magnet as well as being aligned to minds and souls. To say it in a science way is to say that his manifestation on Earth created a new variable to the multi-verses in this region of space, it was as an instantaneous fluctuation in our space time continuum, altering our past present and future, hence Alpha and Omega the beginning and end. (I commonly refer to this as a really bad idea yet here we are and it was, will be, and is being done.) (Side note: I believe there are groups that dedicate their efforts towards such abductions of dimensional beings with the purpose of either bringing them here manifested on Earth or at least receiving information from them to sort through and find any relevance or use of such knowledge. I despise them for their secrecy. Not to say that they are doing the wrong thing in any way, just to say that how they get it done has got to stop.)

His death of the flesh was the death of mortality of man and His flesh was united with His celestial substance as He was conceived of the Spirit Creator and not of man. Reincarnation is not true as it is appointed just once for man to die and then to be judged. All flesh must return to its original source.

When I put the available information that I have learned so far, which is not tantamount in any way, of spiritual feelings, religions and sciences on the ‘one life to live’ and or ‘reincarnation’. I see a universe full of living energy first and foremost. Because it is abundant this living energy has become a resource in some ways an avenue in others. One must be very knowledgeable to use and or direct such energies and will likely have attained great spiritual understandings before hand and or at the time of discovery. With that said, in the flow of the space time continuum all life has only one life to live, at a time, one could say perhaps out of time. One life is everlasting in heaven with Christ, the other is the one we live in the physical matter dimension as a manifestation of our higher selves. Though I believe reincarnation is a process and not a natural one either. It is the product of such living energies become a resource to be used and or directed. For what purpose? Well I would think that is a completely different thread would need to be started on that. So I will stick to what I know from the Biblical story.

CONTINUED....

The paradox of God on a cross. I was under the assumption that Gods were unable to die. If Jesus did deceive the people into thinking he was human, the effects of his deception still persists to this day. We can see this in the OP.

reply to post by TradeMark

The man Jesus died a mortal death and returned to His originality as "The Word". He now resides in the glory of celestial substance never to again be a mortal terrestrial being. The man Jesus is forever gone and shall never be known as a son of man again. All human beings will die a terrestrial death of this flesh and will become a spiritual body. Not all spiritual beings will become celestial beings. Those spiritual bodies who are found worthy are resurrected into celestial bodies. The difference being that a celestial body is clothed in a celestial garment of heavenly glory and allowed into the celestial New Jerusalem. A spiritual unsaved body remains a naked soul in the prison of hell which remains in Sheol.

The way I see it is this; if you choose to go into the light, which I believe is a tractor beam of sorts used to collect living energies, then you will be processed, judged, shown your life reviewed, then taught and trained for your next manifestation, and perhaps not in that exact order o.O If you choose not to go into the light, then you must learn how to fly with your astral body, one must travel in spirit form to the edge of the universe to reach the heavens, not just a heaven but ‘the heavens’, to have the same things happen to them, processed, judged, reviewed and trained. If you take the latter process it is required to have much knowledge or understanding of the non physical side of the universe as it is not an easy path to follow. Although the life energy tractor beam that we call the tunnel of light is a way to assure your security and your due processing I believe it is at some other intelligences whims and notions of what they think is best for you along with a lot of your suggestions and advice on how you like to live and manifest in your life and not to mention also based on your mental and mechanical skills that you have accumulated throughout the universe.
So that’s how I see it, everywhere you go you only have one life to live with a spirit to guide you for an eternity.

Jesus was the son of man while in the flesh of man but is now The Word Of God.

So while he was alive in his first physical manifested Human form he represented the Word (thought) as the son of man (son of, means to me, part of or born of).

As the Christ returns to this universe, He returns as "The Word Of God" and not the son of man.

The magnet that was cut from the stone only lives once, that chain reaction caused from it’s nature to create is own frequency and strength in polarity can only happen once in the space time continuum, all further iterations will continue to lie within the initial conception as the Word (thought). Though the living physical body that initiated the process will never return.

He returns as a celestial Christ and reigns from New Jerusalem which is in the air.

The living energy of Christ is now celestial energies having transgressed life and death and all things human.

New Jerusalem was established upon Jesus' death and given to the human race and is known as the kingdom of heaven or city of God.

After Jesus having experienced a human life through human perceptions with his council it it is deemed worthy to share the knowledge of the universal heavens with Earth.

As the mortal Jesus was dying He promised the man next to Him that He would be in Paradise with Him that very day in death. Paradise is found in the bible only three times and means Garden.

Paradise, the Garden, the School, the Life Energy recycle plants these are all heavens.

Paradise is in the third heaven which is outside of this universe. Paradise is also located in the New Jerusalem where the tree of life is located.

I have come to understand that the tree of life is a mathematical principle used to understand the shape and functions of space itself. The flower of life is used to understand the perceptions and interpretations of space itself. I believe the bible is referring to pan dimensional universes, the 3rd one on top of of this one if I’m not mistaken. That is where Paradise is, that’s where the first life energies came to understand the space time continuum.

The thief was taken with Christ to this Paradise where all worthy celestial souls reside to this very day.

Most all of this information can be found in John, Corinthians, Isaiah, and Revelations.
I tried to condense this as much as I could without losing the meaning

My vision changes almost everyday, I encompass all the information available to me and choose the simplest answers that I can fit into the larger picture. In my mind, if I learn new information and it explains over 50% of the things that were unexplained, until such time that some other new information comes along and explains more than the other one.

You were taught to see Christ in this Inkblot, there is nothing divine to this inkblot. But you were indoctrinated to think and see the image of Christ. The white Jesus. Because it works, because it worked for the ancient Greeks, the ancient Egyptians with gods of lore and idols before.




see !

I can read a holy book and interpret it in any fashion that i like. The idea of religious idols, prophets, Santa Clause, Superman is subliminal. Superman is coming to save you all, in a space ship, on a magic carpet, no self empowerment but all are dependent on the myth. This is the greatest evil of all. Ignorance triumphs.


Omnipotent being/beings trivializing your lives on a giant chess board to stroke it's very ego to be worshiped? It created all of this yet needed to create you to feel worth? Please stop flattering yourselves. It's absurd to even fathom the concept of a human mind like perspective from a omnipotent intelligence being concerned with every good and bad little boy's deeds on this planet in a sea of chaotic eternity spinning ever so slowly out of control. It was written, however the screen play is yet to be produced. After all 'he" lol, made you to be imperfect yet expects more? That's just sick, But he is sending his son again to fix everything lol

Humans, Aliens

Indifferent

reply to post by DarthFazer

Pareidolia is neither history nor faith.

reply to post by troubleshooter


Pareidolia works just the same as religion, that's my point.

Originally posted by DarthFazer
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

Pareidolia works just the same as religion, that's my point.

I did not mention religion.

Religion has caused more hate, war, destruction and death for human beings than any other reason save for natural death. I really wish people would wake up and give up these fantasies that will never be proven or help humanity move forward. It almost makes me question whether there might be different evolutionary levels to the human intellect. In other words, not everyone is equal. I'd say I'm about in the middle, and I'm ok with that because I tend to seek truth with an open but skeptical mind. Deeply religious people? I fear for them, as they will probably become extinct at some point in the not too distant future.

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Religion yes
but spirituality is completely different

Originally posted by DarthFazer
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

Pareidolia works just the same as religion, that's my point.

Thats funny, because 2 years ago i was an agnostic. No one indoctrinated me, and i wasn't brainwashed to believe anything. I came to Christ at the age of 31, i am 33 now and i am not alone amoung the people who were not believers who were called to him. When i had my revelation that Jesus is the creator, i was alone and no one told me he was God. I read the gospels and it came to me, then i went to the preacher and told him i thought i was going nuts because i could swear Jesus was God and then he confirmed it.

Great post, thanks

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


im not talking about the first fairy tale, in the post it says he will come back to the bloodline thats why they kept it secret. if you come back now in same "bloodline" sounds like reincarnation to me. ^^

Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

im not talking about the first fairy tale, in the post it says he will come back to the bloodline thats why they kept it secret. if you come back now in same "bloodline" sounds like reincarnation to me. ^^

Can't come back to a bloodline that was cut off. Thats the entire point of it being "cut off".

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


The church conspiracy was to hide the fact that Jesus had a wife (Mary)
because it would open the door that they maybe had a child together
and to make sure his bloodline was hidden from the world and protected at all cost
from the same group of people who crucified Jesus
so that one day he could be reincarnated into his own bloodline familly
fullfilling the prophecy like promised

from the O.P ?

Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

The church conspiracy was to hide the fact that Jesus had a wife (Mary)
because it would open the door that they maybe had a child together
and to make sure his bloodline was hidden from the world and protected at all cost
from the same group of people who crucified Jesus
so that one day he could be reincarnated into his own bloodline familly
fullfilling the prophecy like promised

from the O.P ?

The op is always right !