The Son of Man has returned .. Spread the word !

Originally posted by CudiTheKid

Originally posted by metaldemon2000
I always thought that the major flaw of Christianity is that they expect Jesus to return as he was before and bearing the same message.

Now, if the story of Jesus is indeed true then you must understand that his message was meant to be a set of instructions, a way from getting from point a to point b, mainly, to ensure the message continues all the way until the second coming, which by this point has been taking thousands of years. That being said, they are little more than driving instructions, directions, if you will, for one to be able to make it to the show. The show however, may differ entirely from the drive.

You make good points, but not all Christians believe as you say. I don't believe Jesus will be human, walking around on Earth, preaching the same message, and setting up his kingdom on Earth. That's not what the Bible
says. Also you wrote, "to ensure the message continues all the way until the second coming, which by this point has been taking thousands of years." Exactly, it's been so long because Faith has persisted for so long. We're coming up on times where belief is decreasing rapidly, "And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of Man."

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That's what I'm saying. Most Christians would be pretty bummed out by Jesus being an ET. They are expecting a five foot tall, hippie looking fella wearing robes, dandies and sporting a sick 70s porno beard.

In fact, many wouldn't care much for the religion anymore if it wasn't as they thought it was.

reply to post by Ben81


My math teacher is the reason I suck at math today. She was too distractingly hot. .. and she knew it too..

ahh memories lol..

But not worthy of worship as a goddess.

All there is, is now. this is your existence. not 5 minutes ago. not as you play 5 minutes ahead. just now.

one day it won't be that way. and that is where our thinking stops, we cease as who we are. Whatever happens next it's not connected to this physical world, and without the collection of brain mass that created the illusion of you that YOU are - that you, you can only feel inside yourself, it's that personal feeling.. - without that, you cease to be you. Your spirit may just be energy or whatever.. but conscious thought is gone.

that's what awaits us in death, in my opinion. it's unknown. but man made stories to educate uneducated people blindly into servitude and that has been used to enslave countless in their various forms, are not something I would put my faith in. Man made tales to control people, who willingly submit themselves to your whim if you are in a position of religious power.

man made tales are there for the uneducated mind that seeks answers to things that have no answer. It needs that faith to sustain a coherent view of the world. But as science as peeled away the myth and secrecy behind even the most smallest of masses, religion has fumbled at first fighting, then submitting but creating intelligent design to fit their myths into reality via erratic evidence.

nup, if we exist after death, there is no pearly gate, no cherub faced angels buzzing about like dragonflies near a pond, or large ripe fruit with do not touch signs on them and a irrefutable monkey clutching at them yelling "Oi Pigsy, where's your staff I need it." as he swipes at more peaches.

None of that..

be nice to think tho, so to each their own

reply to post by samsamm9


Like KIMBA! I love Kimba. So Jesus will be all fluffy and cuddly. That's so cute!

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Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by metaldemon2000

 

Jesus's instructions were pretty basic: we are all sinners, treat others as you would have them treat you, judge not, lest you be judged - and the 10 commandments.

God knows us all, better that we know ourselves. He knows none of us are perfect. He hopes we try and learn from our mistakes. And that we accept his grace and his sacrifice.

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Wow, what's bummer. Sound like the human race is serving some kind of prison sentence. Being made to feel bad about it. Hey but don't worry, lick my boots long enough and do it with feeling, and maybe, just maybe, ill let thou enjoy some enlightenment.

It's like telling your kid that is he doesn't do good at hockey that they are out ofbthe family.

Nope. Jesus is not waiting behind the clouds.

Originally posted by winofiend
but man made stories to educate uneducated people blindly into servitude and that has been used to enslave countless in their various forms, are not something I would put my faith in. Man made tales to control people, who willingly submit themselves to your whim if you are in a position of religious power.

I have no problems if you wish to call me crazy, but some of your points are just stereotypes. For one, I'm not uneducated, I have degrees in Economics and PoliSci from THE Ohio State University. I learned me how to do some readin' and ritin'. Also, I am not enslaved or in the servitude of any man, well no more than the rest of us are to the system. I don't submit myself to men who are in a position of religious power, there is no need for them, I read and interpret the Bible myself. I understand your position, I was an atheist for close to 30 years, which is why I don't mind if people call me nuts, but when you get The Call, it's hard not to pick up the phone.

If Jesus has returned , I guarantee He'd be

heavily censored . ... and kept that way

You know what I love about atheists, they have no faith, therefore they have no reason to argue or get agitated and try to argue their.....oops, oh well, I guess not?

reply to post by metaldemon2000


How did you get that out of my post?

Psalms 14:1 - "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."

reply to post by Shaxuul


There is only one thing you need to know about Christianity....



In all seriousness though, I believe in God, I do have faith, but I think Jesus was just a man like any other, a man with a good message. He wanted peace and love amongst mankind, and he was killed for that.

If someone comes along with the same message, and can cause peace in my lifetime, I welcome it.

The bird riddle is that we are all twigs, and it takes many twigs to build a stable fortress of a ministry.
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Every time I think of the real deal Jesus and what he is like today in our modern world. I see this Zealot bent on happyness and fulfilment of everything under the, god is a scientist, principle that he can solve it and all things. Flying around in his space time vehicle bubble watching and interacting now and then from some dimensional space that we have yet to understand. Though he is a real person and most definitely a living being in all intensive purposes he exists in our minds primarily as the legend says and one day we shall exceed the Christ consciousness level of understanding the universe and that to me will be the day we enter the galactic empire in full spiritual capacity.

That is a small glimpse of what I see of this reincarnated Christ energy. That is one life that is part of many on this earth right now that all share this Christ energy. I can't say exactly though if I were to guess, about 10 and up to around 30 or so actual Humans that were born on the Christ energy transfer day. If I'm not mistaken there will be many that will appear to be him and we will be at great loss as to divine who is the real deal. Which indicates to me there are many have been affected with this energy window. I would go so far as to say there is not just one individual that is configured to receive the information passed to Earth of the changes in these times. Therefore, it is my opinion that if any self Christ claimed figure ever appears that that person is a stooge, a setup, a well taught and schooled individual trained to play a part in a very old prophecy. I believe, that time traveling Christ image bent on happyness, is the potential reality that should collapse upon itself in an incursion style dissipation and always be remembered as a funny cartoon character who looks like some space-time junky-joker riding timelines like tidal waves surfing forever madly through time and dimensions unheard of. That image of Christ-man will always be fiction to me based on my experience.

My conclusion is this: The return of the Christ energies manifestation is upon us. The age and timing appears and feels correct to me, give or take 7 years. I believe he will be recognized in a different fashion then last time. Before he claimed to be the Messiah. This time, others will claim it, society will claim it, he will claim nothing until all have no doubt left in their minds and the very words that he is the true Messiah are spoken to him, these words will be spoken to him and be convincing and with conviction to awaken his inner self from upon high. That is the vision I see and feel when I think of the human Christ in our modern times. It is my opinion that he would choose this path of recognition as an overwhelming vote of confidence to be different than the past course of action to convince and spread his knowledge out. This time it will be from the outside, in.

My main points are; We will know the true Christ before he knows it himself. And 2. If a figure appears with claim of being the true Christ and anyone has any doubt or has not heard of him, it will not be the true Christ.

so what about the millions of souls who were born before Jesus's time??

are they dammed into the eternal flames of hell

my old friend had an out of body experience when his heart stopped for over 2 min...

he told me they is no need to fear death ...he was never religious before or after ...he has now passed on due to drug abuse at the age of 27

i believe we create our own reality..what ever you believe in will be waiting for you when you pass over into the spirit world...

good or bad ..the choice is yours

Originally posted by sitchin
so what about the millions of souls who were born before Jesus's time??

are they dammed into the eternal flames of hell

His blessing cover all before and all after him as well as during his life. Think of it like a Vulcan mind meld with the planet. Christ receives all stigmata from all times here on earth, not just the time during and after his life.

Originally posted by sitchin
so what about the millions of souls who were born before Jesus's time??

are they dammed into the eternal flames of hell

my old friend had an out of body experience when his heart stopped for over 2 min...

he told me they is no need to fear death ...he was never religious before or after ...he has now passed on due to drug abuse at the age of 27

i believe we create our own reality..what ever you believe in will be waiting for you when you pass over into the spirit world...

good or bad ..the choice is yours

Jesus is not 2000 yrs old
he probably lived many times before that
you do know the reincarnation cycles ?
it goes on and on and on until the end of time

Here is one of my first threads on ATS that i made 3 yrs ago
The Age of Enlightment has started!!

Has to fearing death .. no never fear death but dont push it
Life is one big test for each soul (we are all immortal very powerfull souls)

live with no bounderies and learn in this short life where time goes extremely fast
compare to the spirit world where time goes extremely slow
you can be on the Son of Man side of the antichrist side
live with Love and be fearless or live in hate and be fearfull
you have freewill to choose

if you understand the space time continuum
you will see that every words and action we take
have chain reaction in the continuum (butter fly effect)
so better do good deeds because
if you do bad deeds it will follow you in eternity
no Jesus will be able to save you then
and you will become fearfull of the Wrath of God
or Karma

Learn to live correctly and evolve
or learn to live incorrectly and prepare for the nasty descend at the end

its inevitable !

Originally posted by glassspider
Amazed people still believe this rubbish. your religion is destroying the world keep it to yourself. spreadthe word. how about keeping your delusions to yourself. no god ever nada.

Hows it destroying the world?

reply to post by TradeMark


ah ..very convenient ..does that account for every other religion which does not follow christian beliefs

before and after 2012 date since his death?

i mean man has walked the earth for well over 100 thousand years yet Christians only 2 thousand years give or take

talk about a late arrival...im not criticizing your beliefs which i may add seems to change from year to year theses days

also remember only a few hundred years ago you would be burned at the stake or be headed if you didn't become a christian ..that doesn't seem right to me .. you don't have to be religious to be a good and honest person

peace

Originally posted by Ben81

Your heart is the Holy Grail
always listen to your heart before the mind

The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it? (Jeremiah 17:9)

For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile a person.” (Mark 7:21-23)


Oops.

End of times
what it means .. it mean the reincarnation cycles stops
and we will probably be set free living in 4D - 5D multiuniverse beings that we are
now we are in a 3D physical world making our body look weak (thats an illusion)
because of the gravity at the moment

Listen to these videos to know more about the end of time

reply to post by ConspiracyNutjob


thats the mind you are talking about not the heart
the mind bring us the illusion while the heart is the reactor for the body
we can live without the mind but not without the heart
when we are born .. the mind is pure like the heart
only the mind change after time not the heart

hope its more clear now !