Originally posted by booNyzarC
reply to post by Druscilla
Thanks Druscilla, but I suppose I was under the impression that Schuyler was talking more about hope for visitation and Disclosure than just life
out there somewhere. As for life being out there somewhere, I'd be shocked if there isn't, just based on how incredibly vast the universe is.
Whether or not said life has ever paid a visit to this pale blue dot is another question entirely.
Well, I don't know anyone, online or otherwise, save my geology teacher in 1968, who has even suggested there isn't intelligent life elsewhere. In
fact, despite claims to the contrary, people who suggest this are nowhere to be found. So it amounts to a straw man argument that is....simply
I believe that there have been a sufficient number of incidents reported by sane people to suggest some visitations have taken place. I know debunkers
delight in taking apart anything from Walton to Roswell, and it disturbs me how superficial some of these criticisms are. If you remember how Glenn
Dennis was dismissed as a witness for Roswell, you'll understand. It was more about Kevin Randle preserving his credibility than it was dismissing
Dennis. Randle was attempting to be "iron-clad," but as you can see from subsequent events, that actually did not work out well for him. So as a
result of this quest for absolute super-truth, a lot gets cast aside.
On the other hand you have people like Bassett and Greer, who on the surface look and sound like they are after a no-nonsense, straight-up, scientific
confession from government for "Disclosure," now a capitalized word, of what the government knows and when they knew it. Yet there are a couple of
huge contradictions in their approach.
The first is that part of their world view is that the government isn't in charge. Presidents, for example, if they are told anything at all, it is
just enough to get them to do the "Secret" or "Phantom" Government's bidding. So here's Bassett, publicly berating both Clinton and Obama, demanding
answers in this raised-fist method of his, from what amounts to the Superficial Government, while the Shadow Government is laughing at him. To demand
Disclosure from the Superficial Government amounts to "digging in the wrong place." Clinton and Obama don't know anything.
So then you get the Bassett/Greer approach of trotting out witnesses, credible, or in the case of Bassett, who cares? And what do they say? We have
Greer's 19 witnesses as an example. Only 31% of them saw a UFO, and we're not talking "alien craft" here; we're talking something they could not
identify. 71% of the witnesses were told stories by others. 17% of them saw lights in the sky, and 24% saw radar blips. (In case someone is adding it
up, many fit more than one category.) This makes for great theater, but when you mix in Clifford Stone announcing there are 57 varieties of aliens
visiting Earth today and Carol Rosin shrieking that Werner von Braun, great hero of rocketry or nazi war criminal, you choose, did not want to
"weapomize space," a rather nebulous concept, then this carefully crafted theater becomes a comedy.
The second problem is what these folks expect us to believe in terms of the nature of UFOs. This comes from Greer. I dont know what Bassett thinks,
but he clearly worships Greer. In any case, these "alien craft" aren't made of welds and nuts and bolts. These things are alive and their occupants
plug into them and become part of the craft. Being on them is like being in a dream. And people on the ground who want to see them must be pure of
heart and worthy, otherwise they will remain invisible.
I don't know the nicest way to say this, so perhaps we can use Greer's own words to explain it. This explantion of invisible alien craft who will not
manifest to you unless you are pure of heart "strains credulity." (his words)
Now if that's what you believe, if after this you still thing Exopolitics is a viable political movement soon to be embraced by the entire populace
"taking over" and demanding Disclosure, by all means have at it. Knock yourself out.
But what really is going to happen is that Bassett is going to spend his million dollars to have his conference, twice as big as Greer's, and the MSM
will be there filming, and a few of them will put a snippet on the nightly news as dozens of threads are started on ATS to great fanfare, and that
will be that. We'll be talking about the event for years on ATS even as the Disclosure Project press conference in 2001 is still with us. We'll talk
but no one else will.
edit on 12/2/2012 by schuyler because: (no reason given)