Astrophysicist Predicts X-Flare Similar to Carrington Event on 12/18/12 that will hit Earth 12/21/12

Originally posted by curiouswa
What thebarcaroller says is the planetary alignment and asteroid ceres alignment, previously caused X-flares and earthquakes. Yes, we've experienced X-flares many times.

Relationship with asteroids aligning and earthquakes

You can draw an imaginary line between any two points in the sky and call it an alignment. Its not a magic line or anything. The planets have been doing this same dance for ever . Did you know that the planet venus traces a perfect pentical in the sky every eight years .Does that mean that venus is an evil planet? Many people think the pentical is an evil symbol. Did you know that the Olympics were timed out to follow the tracings of Venus and that the first Olympic symbol was supposed to be the pentical but it was thought that interconnecting circles told a better story of unity. So instead of a five pointed star we have five interconnected circles. The sky is the biggest thing we know and its been there for our entertainment since we first opened our eyes and looked up. Its not far fetched that our ancestors were enthralled by the nightly dance. They didnt have MTV. And the sky is still the biggest entertainment when we are on a camping trip.

No way they can scientifically predict something like that.

The sun will go through many revolutions before that time and sunspots appear and disappear at random. Just more doom porn leading up to "the date"...might as well milk it for all it is worth I guess.

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That's what I was thinking. Even if planetary alignment could increase the chance of an X-class, what would then be the probability of it heading our way?

This is not a "doom and gloom" thread. It's intended as an intelligent discussion on planetary alignments, solar flares and asteroid ceres.

Funny how no such mention of doom and gloom was mentioned, yet the people who oppose the most as the first to respond as they really are wanting and looking for that type of thread, despite their soft objections.

The dates given are my 13 year olds birthday, we were laughing the other day about him getting all these electronic gifts and then something happening to take down the power grid, I just showed him this thread, lol. Also my Granpa who moved in with us last year, it is his bride's/our Grandma's first anniversary of her death...

Very powerful time indeed any way we look at it.

My sense is that even though we may see disruptions it will not be anything like the Carrington event. Nature has her own ideas on this alignment I do suspect and she will be active during that time frame.

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Those are really nothing more than fear posts. Get angry rather than look at their vulnerability.
For those afraid:
(This too shall pass)

Of course, let's ignore the flares which occur when there is no "alignment" and the "alignments" when no flares occur.

I call it the shower syndrome. It applies to earthquakes as well.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

NASA asteroid orbit of Ceres

NASA Orbit of Ceres

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Yet you use more 'radiation' to kill that cancer, oh the irony.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas

Kill one cancer now at the risk of producing another in the future.

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Right. There will always be solar flares, including solar flares during planetary alignments. The frequency is the same as it's always been.

What's intriguing is the relationship between planets and the sun and how it's all relevant and interactive. Since we have no other historic data point for the Carrington Event, its difficult to know the frequency or rarity of this type of event. We have to accept and plan that this is a possible reality in our future, whether in our lifetime or 100 years from now.

The projections are that as little as $300 million is all it would take to secure our electrical grid and safeguard against solar flares, EMP's and the like.

We buy life insurance, auto insurance and adopt safeguards in other areas, but this 500 pound gorilla is being ignored.

Why would our governments not prepare for the worse that would devastate our economy for years to come?

This report on electronic magnetic pulse (EMP) threats is a good starting point, whether we lose electric from an EMP or solar flare is irrelevant. What is relevant is losing life as we know it. We need to plan for it!

USA Report on EMP Threat

Threat of Securing USA Electric Grid


Solar flares threaten our nuclear power plants

An EMP may also be a naturally-occurring event caused by solar flares and storms disrupting the Earth’s magnetic field. In 1859, a major solar storm occurred, causing auroral displays and significant shifts of the Earth’s magnetic fields. As a result, telegraphs were rendered useless and several telegraph stations burned down. The impacts of that storm were muted because semiconductor technology did not exist at the time. Were the storm to happen today, according to an article in Scientific American, it could “severely damage satellites, disable radio communications, and cause continent-wide electrical black-outs that would require weeks or longer to recover from.” 3 Although storms of this magnitude occur rarely, storms and flares of lesser intensity occur more frequently. Storms of about half the intensity of the 1859 storm occur every 50 years or so according to the authors of the Scientific American article, and the last such storm occurred in November 1960, leading to world-wide geomagnetic disturbances and radio outages. The power grid is particularly vulnerable to solar storms, as transformers are electrically grounded to the Earth and susceptible to damage from geomagnetically induced currents. The damage or destruction of numerous transformers across the country would result in reduced grid functionality and even prolonged power outages.

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And just how many chemotherapy patients relapse?

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I'll wager three stars on it happening. I like betting on things like this. First come first serve, limited to three bets. If it happens and wipes out the power and consequently the internet, how can I collect my stars? This is a no win bet for me I guess.

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You mean of the ones that survive the chemotherapy treatment?
Probably most of them, at least from complications of the disease or metastasis to another area.

ganjoa

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And just how many chemotherapy patients relapse?

What does chemotherapy have to do with solar flares or radiation?
But for the record, I had no reoccurrence after my last treatment 25 years ago.

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Well she said that we know radiation causes cancer and I thought it was ironic we treat cancer with more radiation. Oh and congratulations, but one success story in the vast ocean doesn't count for its efficacy when there are until millions who succumbed. However, don't stop me from letting you do what you do best.

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Well she said that we know radiation causes cancer and I thought it was ironic we treat cancer with more radiation.

We do know radiation causes cancer.

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow I can't believe that anyone actually can take this seriously.

Made me laugh though, so thank you.

Originally posted by curiouswa
Thebarcaroller is a Astrophysicist on You Tube who does educational-type videos on planetary alignments and such. He is stating that due to the upcoming planetary alignments, including an asteroid "ceres" also aligning with the planets. This alignment could cause disruption with the Sun and cause an X-flare. He goes onto say that this alignment is similar to the alignment of planets that caused the Carrington Event of 1859. Such an event today will wipe out our electrical grid and cause long term damage.

This is the biggest load of bunk I've ever seen in one single paragraph.

No serious "astrophysicist" would even use a word like "planetary alignment" nor be insane enough to presume that the location of Ceres and its "aligning with the planets" would matter.

Seriously people, can't you spot BS when it hits you in the face?

Edit: "Lunar Modulations"....ahhh...rrrighttt......

With all due respect, there is conflicting studies that state there are correlations, although not as simple as "solar flare = earthquake".

Harvard Study - link between solar flares and earthquakes

(from last sentence above)
It is further proposed that such sudden enhancement in the process of tetonic motion of plates in fault zones may increase abruptly the heat gradients on spatial (dT/dx) and temporal (dT/dt) scales responsible for earthquakes.

We present the study of 682 earthquakes of ¡Ý4.0 magnitude observed during January 1991 to January 2007 in the light of solar flares observed by GOES and SOXS missions in order to explore the possibility of any association between solar flares and earthquakes. Our investigation preliminarily shows that each earthquake under study was preceded by a solar flare of GOES importance B to X class by 10-100 hrs. However, each flare was not found followed by earthquake of magnitude ¡Ý4.0. We classified the earthquake events with respect to their magnitude and further attempted to look for their correlation with GOES importance class and delay time. We found that with the increasing importance of flares the delay in the onset of earthquake reduces. The critical X-ray intensity of the flare to be associated with earthquake is found to be ~10-6 Watts/m2. On the other hand no clear evidence could be established that higher importance flares precede high magnitude earthquakes. Our detailed study of 50 earthquakes associated with solar flares observed by SOXS mission and other wavebands revealed many interesting results such as the location of the flare on the Sun and the delay time in the earthquake and its magnitude. We propose a model explaining the charged particles accelerated during the solar flare and released in the space that undergone further acceleration by interplanetary shocks and produce the ring current in the earth's magnetosphere, which may enhance the process of tectonics plates motion abruptly at fault zones. It is further proposed that such sudden enhancement in the process of tectonic motion of plates in fault zones may increase abruptly the heat gradients on spatial (dT/dx) and temporal (dT/dt) scales responsible for earthquakes.

another study showing link between solar flares and earthquakes

The last page and paragraph of the above link summarizes

The observed temporal clustering of Fig. 4 shows that the rate of flare occurrence decreases in time as a power law after a ”mainflare”. Since the same behaviour is found for seismic sequences, here we propose that the mechanism at the basis of seismic energy redistribution can be responsible for ”afterflare” occurrence. In particular magnetic stress transfer in Solar Corona plays the role of elastic stress redistribution on the Earth crust.