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Originally posted by NorEaster
The material world is only present. This is true. But, being a human being causes you to literally straddle two incompatible physical realms - one that is material and one that is informational.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by Itisnowagain
There is suffering because we are unsatisfied with how things are. There are various things that cause us to be unsatisfied, but no matter what the object of of our dissatisfaction is, it is always us who has to change our mind.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
No one can obtain presence because there is nothing separate from presence.edit on 3-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 1Learner
As for "your" process of Being, I assume "you" did not intend to become free, or be aware of presence.
What say you on this?
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Itisnowagain
So if a person isn't here "now' that means that they do not exist? If a person is not around you , they do not exist since "Now" is all there is?
You do not believe in free-will of the body. Do you believe in free-will of the mind? Do people have control over their mind? If they do, then wouldn't certain thoughts lead to certain actions ? If they do not, then why does anything matter? Everything is unfolding and there is nothing anyone can do about ti anyway. they only reason to do something is because we think there is a purpose in the action - without the purpose of action - what motivates the body to action? Do you believe in sub-conscious mind? How do you know if you are "resisting" or if this is just something naturally occurring in mind that needs to happen?
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Itisnowagain
So if a person isn't here "now' that means that they do not exist?
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by NorEaster
Observation is actually experienced as "immediate memory",and has been determined to occur between a half second to a full seven seconds after the fact ( www.nature.com... ) so forget the "being in the now" like ever.
If what you write is true it is a wonder more people don't die on the road.
This is what you linked as proof that you can never be in the now (present):
There has been a long controversy as to whether subjectively 'free' decisions are determined by brain activity ahead of time. We found that the outcome of a decision can be encoded in brain activity of prefrontal and parietal cortex up to 10 s before it enters awareness. This delay presumably reflects the operation of a network of high-level control areas that begin to prepare an upcoming decision long before it enters awareness.
End quote.
Do you believe that this quote says you are never in the now?
Do you think that what you have written reflects what the link says (quoted and copied above)?
edit on 3-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by NorEaster
Observation is actually experienced as "immediate memory",and has been determined to occur between a half second to a full seven seconds after the fact ( www.nature.com... ) so forget the "being in the now" like ever.
If what you write is true it is a wonder more people don't die on the road.
This is what you linked as proof that you can never be in the now (present):
There has been a long controversy as to whether subjectively 'free' decisions are determined by brain activity ahead of time. We found that the outcome of a decision can be encoded in brain activity of prefrontal and parietal cortex up to 10 s before it enters awareness. This delay presumably reflects the operation of a network of high-level control areas that begin to prepare an upcoming decision long before it enters awareness.
End quote.
Do you believe that this quote says you are never in the now?
Do you think that what you have written reflects what the link says (quoted and copied above)?
edit on 3-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Itisnowagain
So if a person isn't here "now' that means that they do not exist?
If a 'person' came to presence (now) it would die. Presence is your absence. The 'person' would be raptured, the 'person' would be no more and the kingdom would be revealed as oneness is realized.
Then there are no persons, no anythings.
Just this.
Don't get me wrong, it is the same and quite ordinary. Really ordinary but wonderful.
edit on 4-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)