Obelisks/divide from God as Porn/divide man from woman

Originally posted by vendettent
I believe that romance hasnt changed to much, but I could be wrong.
40-50 years ago there was still porn and every man masterbated it just wasnt digital.

I was wondering if the OP could compare what s/he feels has changed and what is was like back then?

edit on 5-12-2012 by vendettent because: (no reason given)

Well these days I am the bad guy for thinking it is wrong, where as before, the majority would have seen the guy indulging in that as the betrayer of his wife and family and marriage...... now public opinion os that I am some uptight insecure prude or something, when actually, if I am with the right guy in a loyal relationship, that couldn't be farther than the truth.

Also, I am the farthest thing from insecure about myself, my insecurity lies in others, I have no faith in most people these days, all self indulgence and lies are applauded, and anyone looking for loyalty is poopooed. so to speak....

I think this is what also motivated my thread....

Originally posted by mellisamouse
reply to post by NarrowGate

 

Awesome post, and good info, except the catholic church does now use Gods name or "hail" his name and lift it above all others....

They use titles of God and Lord instead of the names Yahweh and Yashuah.....

To me, the revealing of the true names and using them and promoting them are one of the things I am looking for in finding the "truth" and Gods true church on this planet.

As your name states "Narrow Gate"..... narrow it is, as in FEW would be finding it, so any large well known organization would not house true worship in my opinion...

There are MANY counterfeits, but as for myself, I have yet to find the narrowest gate...

I think that the sabbath is definatly one major identifying mark, of his true followers not being able to buy or sell in the last days, since only true worshipers would not work or shop etc on that day....

I liked this one article about buying and selling....www.naturalgod.com... and its MARK

Goodness I have been running into this a lot (narrow gate thing) on ATS. It is a result of people just interpreting whatever

The narrow gate is symbolic of rejecting sin and taking up your cross to follow Jesus. Yashuah IS Jesus. It is pronounced Jesus is Latin and in English. The spelling, but not pronunciation, Jesus is a result of translation from Hebrew to Greek to Latin. Our Lord's name IS pronounced Jesus.

Yahweh is not God's name God's name is "I AM" *or* YHWH. The form of written language we find "yahweh" in is actually spelled YHWH because that language has as a *general* rule no written, only implied, vowels. We do not know what letters were in between YHWH. Many think the earliest people of God hid the real name of God so that we would not offend as much when we misuse the name. IDK.

The Catholic Church is God's Church. Please read the Catechism and you will understand trust me, you should give it a try before rejecting it. There is a lot of anti-Catholic propaganda from all directions but it is just that - propaganda. The evidence is there, but you have to be looking for evidence of it being God's Church before even considering the conspiracy. Regardless, the same Scripture you JUST quoted was preserved for you by the Catholic Church. All protestants broke away from the true Church.


There are many Christians, regardless of denomination, entering through the wide gate. It is a passage about rejecting sin, taking up your cross, and following God. It has nothing to do with the Church.

edit: Many Catholics go to work on the Sabbath unnecessarily. The key is whether not it is necessary. Jesus defended His disciples for doing certain kinds of work on the Sabbath, and many foolishly do not look at the Church's teachings and just interpret that to mean they can work.

Please read the Catechism, you will be shocked at what the Church teaches and how many misconceptions people have.

reply to post by NarrowGate


I read through it quite a bit, and I cannot buy the catholic church being Yahwehs church..... they celebrate christmas, have billions of dollars while poor starve, think confession is an excuse for purposley getting away with murder etc... not to mention al of the child molesters...

I dunno, I wanna have an open mind, but can't see the fruits of the spirit being produced from that church, or any church....

Narrow is the gate and few will find it..... it won't be the most highly advertized organization on the planet....


Matthew 7:21-24
King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

JMHO.....

Originally posted by mellisamouse
reply to post by NarrowGate

 

I read through it quite a bit, and I cannot buy the catholic church being Yahwehs church..... they celebrate christmas, have billions of dollars while poor starve, think confession is an excuse for purposley getting away with murder etc... not to mention al of the child molesters...

I dunno, I wanna have an open mind, but can't see the fruits of the spirit being produced from that church, or any church....

Narrow is the gate and few will find it..... it won't be the most highly advertized organization on the planet....


Matthew 7:21-24
King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

JMHO.....

You are not looking at the big picture. How many people do you see actually taking up their cross, following Jesus, and living by the golden rule? It has nothing to do with denomination, but I assure you there have been many saints who entered through that path. The narrow gate is not an organization it is a way of life.

Satan attacks God's Church look at the bigger picture with that in mind and you will see why it looks like the Vatican is hording money. Besides the fact they have to support the city-state, they have to contend with other countries in more than one way.

Actually, Catholics do not make Christmas a point of faith. Just because it used to be pagan doesn't mean we can't steal it. We also dress our children as saints on halloween. Neither of those are anywhere in our belief system though, just tradition (human not Sacred).

edit; You will not be able to find a single questionable teaching in the Catechism btw.

Well, if they claim to follow the bible they are pretty blatenly satanic....

Halloween is definatly one of satans days, as is christmas...

The bible is pretty clear about not following those man made festivals etc...

10 Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says:

“Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the heavens,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.

Satan IS the Gid of this world and paints himself up as an angel of light.... counterfeit, enough truth for those not looking to accept, yet any truth seekers who look into it themselves can see it all pretty clearly.

Originally posted by mellisamouse
Well, if they claim to follow the bible they are pretty blatenly satanic....

Halloween is definatly one of satans days, as is christmas...

The bible is pretty clear about not following those man made festivals etc...

10 Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says:

“Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the heavens,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.

Satan IS the Gid of this world and paints himself up as an angel of light.... counterfeit, enough truth for those not looking to accept, yet any truth seekers who look into it themselves can see it all pretty clearly.

Christmas was but is not now. Halloween is but is not for Catholics. You act as if we participate in these festivals as the pagans though. No quite the opposite, we protest and take them back for God.

You are right, Satan has been given power over this world. You basically believe what Catholics believe and you just don't know it. That is because Satan has caused people to forget what the Church teaches and place what they feel like above the Scripture.

Most Catholics have no idea that the Church teaches that Satan runs the world, but it is indeed in the Catechism. Satan has caused many in the Church to think we should just "focus on Christ" and not mention Satan. You can not focus on His light without factoring Satan and darkness in too. That is what he came to defeat.

You would be surprised how many people believe what the Church teaches and think Catholics don't because Catholics have all but forgotten what the Church teaches.

Yes these are evil and adulterous times indeed.

On the subject of tradition - even when the scribes and pharisees were contradicting God's Law with tradition, and opposing God's plan for salvation (albiet unknowingly), they still had authority from God and that was made clear to us.

This does not apply but is still interesting.

Well, all the catholics I know celebrate christmas and halloween, so I think non practising catholics should stop calling themselves as such then???
Also, how do you explain all of the child molesters and lack of using Gods name??

I wish finding the truth were as simple as walking into a church, but their bible even says, God does not dwell in manmade temples...

DO NOT call anyone on earth your father, etc....

They blateltyl go against most of the bible from what I see...

Most of my vest friends are catholic, but it is just another title, another religion, if you ask me....

I reallllly wish it were that easy... I am presonally tired of looking, but the only reason I do is because I want to be on Gods side, not satans....

Since stubborness is the main factor driving me these dayus, my efforts are likely to remain fruitless I guess....

reply to post by mellisamouse


You can not just interpret the bible for yourself! what is the context of that passage I must ask you? The Catholic Church teaches that he was referring to scribes and pharisees (who still had authority from God, even in this context) who fancy themselves fathers of schools of thought and theology (kinda like protestants huh). If you look at the context along with the rest of the Scripture this is the only logical conclusion you can draw.

Are you saying we can not call our dad father? How about our founding fathers is that also a sin? scripture would indicate otherwise, you can see multiple apostles calling people fathers who are not the Father in heaven nor their earthly Father.

Also, what is your take on apostolic succession which is infact Scriptural.

I would refer you to Catholic.com . Any question you have can be answered best there. You will find catholic answers an extremely informative website even if you are not planning to convert.

In a time such as this, I think it would benefit you to make an appointment to talk with a priest and discuss your concerns about everything you have mentioned in this thread (not even talking just theological here either) and ask questions.

BTW, if you expressed your concerns about the porn and he keeps watching it he is no good for you. IMHO.