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posted on Dec, 1 2012 @ 08:35 PM
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Yes, how can I feel like getting into things with someone if I feel like they are thinking about 1000 other people instead of me, and thinking that me being naturally ME is somehow never going to be good enough for someone who has such an unrealistic view in their head.




posted on Dec, 1 2012 @ 08:35 PM
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Yes, how can I feel like getting into things with someone if I feel like they are thinking about 1000 other people instead of me, and thinking that me being naturally ME is somehow never going to be good enough for someone who has such an unrealistic view in their head.



posted on Dec, 1 2012 @ 08:35 PM
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reply to post by EllaMarina
 


Yes, how can I feel like getting into things with someone if I feel like they are thinking about 1000 other people instead of me, and thinking that me being naturally ME is somehow never going to be good enough for someone who has such an unrealistic view in their head.



posted on Dec, 1 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by mellisamouse
reply to post by EllaMarina
 


Yes, how can I feel like getting into things with someone if I feel like they are thinking about 1000 other people instead of me, and thinking that me being naturally ME is somehow never going to be good enough for someone who has such an unrealistic view in their head.


Perhaps you should blame this on your insecurity issues instead of porn and a lack of traditional values?


If youre going to say porn is warping peoples minds one could possibly deduce fictional romantic movies have skewed your mind into constructing an irrational notion of what constitutes love



posted on Dec, 1 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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Thank you. Yes, it is no longer about who you are on the inside, or your morals, or how hard you work to take care of your family..... it is about alllll the phony unrealistic ways we supposedly aren't good enough on the outside, and how we cant be phony enough in bed.

Don't get me wrong, there are still a lot of good men out there, but most are taken, or on here and live too far, lol...

The majority out on the prowl though are my worst nightmare.



posted on Dec, 1 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I think religion is the biggest sham out there.

I still believe in this beautiful creation though as divinely made.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by Sailor Sam
And any religion here on earth is just a vehicle to make sure that people continue to believe in this creature and for those people to stay captive to those some religions.

Religion is NOT what you think it is...

The true agenda behind Religion is to HIDE the truth.

You ARE right about one thing: "Religion is the biggest con ever perpetrated on mankind"

Religion is a major tool of the Illuminati agenda
All false religions are illuminati created



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
- i m sorry for what happened to you OP

and yes i think you point into the right direction
When some responded, that 'porn has been around forever ' , i disagree,
because that is not the problem here -



Apparently, porn is the problem, though.


but that, opposed to these days,
in the old times, infidelity or treason still was a matter of the heart [ of male - since this s obviously about males, right ]
... but these days, male is filled with all kind of pictures, which are projected into his brow [ ! ] ,


Nonsenses. I think you need to look at the history or prostitution to see that men's heads have always been "filled with pictures". A couple of weeks ago, I was listening to a story about English monks opening a hut in the middle of a forest and charging the locals to see some some 'pagan' (nude) images: basically a 14th Century wanking booth. Casual prostitution in Victorian England, as opposed to occupational Victorian England was a way of life for a massive swathe of working class women.


and many - if not most - are searching on internet the pictures that correlate with the picture, evil is projecting in his brow.


You undermine your own argument here. What you describe here is imagination/experience existing before the search for (matching) pornography.

Not frequenting purveyors of hard core pornography, I'd actually performed most 'hard core' sex acts before I ever saw pictures of them. I'd suggest most people are in the same boat.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 03:14 AM
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Awesome links, thanks, I will check em out, yeah "religion is the debil! " (waterboy) if you ask me! lol



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 05:54 AM
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...since 250 years, there has come another spirit, which has started to give ordinairy man very powerful tools.
Befóre that time, there existed a more or less feodal, hierarchical society [ which had its own mistakes, i know ] , but mankind had a total different percéption on the world.
He may have been cruel or sweet: but at least he was living from the *heart* ;
that is, the heart was giving him the understanding of the world.

but since, say 200 y , mans consciousness has turned into being a subject,
and a subject has only ' objects for own use ' around him - including God, female and neighbour.
The modern subject is but a tiny, pathetic awareness.

..a major tool which evil supplied to create the Subject, was the notion [ the projection ] of ' capital '-
meaning, that, according to the subject, everything can be calculated in Value of Money,
because that notion is being projected onto everything he sees: including God and female.
including virtues, including sex, including relations.

and this poor, closed consciousness of man, today, is the prison of evil itself.
..man projects the pictures he has in his brow onto woman, and, coupled with some biological glands in the body, falsely considers that to be ' love '.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 06:06 AM
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not just ' Capital ' is a Projection which Evil supplies into mans brow -
but ' porn ' is one.... ' technic ' is one... etc

What do all these supplied Projections have in common..? - they are "Will to Rule "
who ?
evils Will to Rule

...like Technic: that is nothing more but a means to subdue Creation
to Use creation... well - misuse , for own gain
that is why the dangling carrott of Technic is its ' promises ' , but the goal is Destruction.

you know that geniuses 'see ' their ideas in the brow -
that is the place, where evil supplies Its Projections [ to man ] .
so, ultimately, it is Evil who runs man - only letting to thínk man that he is free.

true - ofcourse, throughout history, evil has done that:
but never before in history, evil has succeeded to create souls into robotic Subjects, who are living on Surrogate 'love ', surrogate pleasures, surrogate beliefs, etc,
being a fake to themself, to the entire spiritual world, and to Life itself.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
reply to post by Merriman Weir
 


...since 250 years, there has come another spirit, which has started to give ordinairy man very powerful tools.
Befóre that time, there existed a more or less feodal, hierarchical society [ which had its own mistakes, i know ] , but mankind had a total different percéption on the world.
He may have been cruel or sweet: but at least he was living from the *heart* ;
that is, the heart was giving him the understanding of the world.


Can you prove this assertion or even give examples?


..a major tool which evil supplied to create the Subject, was the notion [ the projection ] of ' capital '-
meaning, that, according to the subject, everything can be calculated in Value of Money,
because that notion is being projected onto everything he sees: including God and female.
including virtues, including sex, including relations.


This isn't an idea that magically appeared during the last 250-200 years. If you've had enough money, you've always been able to buy anything. Money would buy you a God through religious conversion (as happened with many pagan leaders trying to gain access to European early mediaeval power structure). It's always, always bought you sex: the bible is older than 250-200 years old and there's prostitutes there. Power and money have a symbiotic relationship and always has done, so it's always bought influence, arms, strength, security and so on.
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posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 06:29 AM
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sure - prostitution is from all ages. Thats not the point though.
In the old times, prostitution at least was ' something of the heart ' - on both sides. It was never the clean, unpersonal projecting from the brow.

and the 'since 250 years ' i mean the french revolution, when lucifers fake light came to shine,
and the Subject with her Reason started to transform souls into Subjects.

'ni Dieu ni maitre ', no God and no master -
the false light told every subject that nów finally they was Free.

but what really happened, was that the consciousness withdrew from the heart into the mind,
giving a complete Abstract vieuw on the world,
and the false ' liberte egalite and fraternite '
was the cutting off of every notion of any personal relationship
- since any personal, living relationship can be provided only by God -

and what the newborn luciferian human expierienced,
was that he was Born Again : but as Mass Human, as Human Cattle.

the luciferian cattle Human hás no ' neighbour ' - but lives with souls the same empty as he himself.
neither he has God
neither knows what is Female.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
reply to post by Merriman Weir
 


sure - prostitution is from all ages. Thats not the point though.
In the old times, prostitution at least was ' something of the heart ' - on both sides. It was never the clean, unpersonal projecting from the brow.

and the 'since 250 years ' i mean the french revolution, when lucifers fake light came to shine,
and the Subject with her Reason started to transform souls into Subjects.

'ni Dieu ni maitre ', no God and no master -
the false light told every subject that nów finally they was Free.

but what really happened, was that the consciousness withdrew from the heart into the mind,
giving a complete Abstract vieuw on the world,
and the false ' liberte egalite and fraternite '
was the cutting off of every notion of any personal relationship
- since any personal, living relationship can be provided only by God -

and what the newborn luciferian human expierienced,
was that he was Born Again : but as Mass Human, as Human Cattle.

the luciferian cattle Human hás no ' neighbour ' - but lives with souls the same empty as he himself.
neither he has God
neither knows what is Female.


I genuinely mean no offence with this but I think much of your argument is being lost in translation. I say this fully acknowledging your English is far, far better than my French and knowing how hard it is trying to communicate in a second language (I trained as a sign language interpreter and have repeatedly tried to learn German as an adult). However, I'm struggling to understand what you're saying in some of this.

That said, the idea that that prostitution has generally been anything other than a impersonal business arrangement is baffling. There might be some exceptions, but they will be the exceptions whether before or after the French Revolution - which seems to be a turning point for you.

Given the role of the Church in pre-Revolutionary France, it's hardly surprising that there was a revolution.



posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Lone12
reply to post by Merriman Weir
 


and this poor, closed consciousness of man, today, is the prison of evil itself.
..man projects the pictures he has in his brow onto woman, and, coupled with some biological glands in the body, falsely considers that to be ' love '.



Awesome post there...... exactly what I feel...... like the only love I feel these days from a male is either from my 8 year old son, or my salamanders or the cat, lol.....

I feel like I should start wearing mumu's around and then maybe someone will love me for the person I am on the inside.

I am one of those sapiosexual people, so I guess it may be a bit harder for me to understand as well, as intelligence is the main thing that attracts me.



posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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I believe that romance hasnt changed to much, but I could be wrong.
40-50 years ago there was still porn and every man masterbated it just wasnt digital.

I was wondering if the OP could compare what s/he feels has changed and what is was like back then?
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posted on Dec, 5 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Porn is demonic. No way around it. I guess I will stop stating the blatantly obvious now.

False religions were not created by the Illuminati. Freemasonry (which in the publics mind is illuminati - that is probably wrong though) may have infiltrated the Catholic Church, and possibly even sabotaged it (many people strongly believe this, I am very skeptical about it) but that is irrelevant. Satan surely has - so I am not so worried about Masons.

The false religions were created by Satan. Demons like Baal are worshiped as gods in different forms throughout history. Christ clearly says He will be with His Church until the end, and we all know which Church meets that criteria I will give you a hint it is not Mormons.... Anyways, I have encountered many Catholics who misinterpret or misapply the Church's teaching. If you have doubts about the validity of the Church please google "Catechism of the Catholic Church." It is everything the Church teaches, and it is worth a read from any Christian, Catholic or not. Don't trust all Catholics, but do trust the Church's authority and teachings. I don't know about the teachers sometimes though...

The Catholic Church teaches that this is Satan's world (the Evil One) who is an intelligent spirit (fallen angel, used to be an Archangel) with free will not an idea or symbol. We overcome it (Satan, and his works) through Jesus the Christ, our Lord who binds Satan for us and through us. The Catholic Church is not concealing truth from anyone. It is God's Church, and it is directly attacked by Satan all the time. I personally believe this is, in the end, a display of God's power and authority - but that is my speculation and not a known truth. The rest is. We are God's children, to be made like god's (but not like God - be clear).


On to anti-masonic views in the Church. I do not know if there is a conspiracy at the top of Masonry where people actively worship santa clause, or the devil, or homosexual paganism, the sun, or Buddha, or a flase version of the Trinity or whatever other conspiracy (oh sorry, forgot the alien reptile one)... It is completely irrelevant because even if Masons didn't exist it would still be Satan's world, and as far as I can see there is not nearly sufficient evidence for the claim that they actively follow Satan. We all indirectly fall to Satan, so if that is what they are doing - who are you to judge SO DID YOU. Their intentions are likely just as good as yours and in some cases even better. Is this an Angel of Light scenario? Who cares! It does not change prophecy in the least.

I have even heard claims that part of the "trinity" they supposedly worship is the demon Baal. It would not be the first time it happened, but I doubt it is the case with the Masons. Do not let extreme points of view cloud your judgment. We all struggle with that problem (extreme points of view... normally the truth is in the middle).

The reason the Church is incompatible with Masonry is because it is a known truth that Christ is the only truth and light in this world. Masonry teaches an entirely different doctrine and incorporates all religions. They also take the Lords name out of His prayers from what I have read (don't take that as being true; I read it on the internet). They also ask for oaths to be made which is a sin.

I personally cannot worship God with someone who believes in a false God, and act like it is okay if they never find Truth (who is a person, not just an idea). If you worship a demon and I worship the Lord how can we worship together? That is why I will never try to join the Masons.

It is true that Masons are major players in the power structure of the world. That, by default, means Satan influences them. The same can be said of God's Church. Please apply logic. God did not abandon us and leave us without a true Church. He told us He would not do that, why do you not believe Him? If you want to argue that the Catholic Church is not that Church fine but do not argue that the true Church does not exist - that would be to call God a liar.



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 05:58 AM
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Alfred Kinsey's legacy at work maybe throw in some Wilhelm Reich . OP should look into these men and the correlations that have followed. I agree with your assessment if a bit idealistic however. I think it is very hard for couples today. In times past you would not be part of such large metropolis's but would instead have spent most of your time relying on your family and spouse for basic survival. People do not understand commitment any longer and the idea of monogamous relations is being destroyed. The idea of trading partners like you would trade in a car has taken hold. Why work at a relationship when you can just start a new one. Eventually why have a relationship at all when you can just have sex. Reminds me of how things were in Brave New World where relationships were outlawed and people just went to drug induced orgies together.
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posted on Dec, 8 2012 @ 02:51 AM
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Awesome post, and good info, except the catholic church does now use Gods name or "hail" his name and lift it above all others....

They use titles of God and Lord instead of the names Yahweh and Yashuah.....

To me, the revealing of the true names and using them and promoting them are one of the things I am looking for in finding the "truth" and Gods true church on this planet.

As your name states "Narrow Gate"..... narrow it is, as in FEW would be finding it, so any large well known organization would not house true worship in my opinion...

There are MANY counterfeits, but as for myself, I have yet to find the narrowest gate...

I think that the sabbath is definatly one major identifying mark, of his true followers not being able to buy or sell in the last days, since only true worshipers would not work or shop etc on that day....

I liked this one article about buying and selling....www.naturalgod.com... and its MARK



posted on Dec, 8 2012 @ 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by NihilistSanta
Alfred Kinsey's legacy at work maybe throw in some Wilhelm Reich . OP should look into these men and the correlations that have followed. I agree with your assessment if a bit idealistic however. I think it is very hard for couples today. In times past you would not be part of such large metropolis's but would instead have spent most of your time relying on your family and spouse for basic survival. People do not understand commitment any longer and the idea of monogamous relations is being destroyed. The idea of trading partners like you would trade in a car has taken hold. Why work at a relationship when you can just start a new one. Eventually why have a relationship at all when you can just have sex. Reminds me of how things were in Brave New World where relationships were outlawed and people just went to drug induced orgies together.
edit on 6-12-2012 by NihilistSanta because: (no reason given)



So friggin true..... like I said, the purity, of just touching pinky fingers with someone who you loved and mutually respected is 10000000 times more fulfilling than any false lusts, but so many forget that or have never even experienced it...






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