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Originally posted by Misfit
@ DeltaChaos
Having read (and responding to) your posts of the inquiry of Magik, why are you so adamant about Magik being proven?
It seems to me that possibly there is a subversive motive? That the powers of Magik, if can not be proven to you, are actually myth.
Misfit
I am an athiest for the same reasons I don't believe in phenomena that are not documented, not witnesses, and are untestable. Or at least the tests do not produce predictable results.
I don't believe that reason could be because some unseen spiritual force is arbitrarily allowing it. If it is being done by a person, then the person is doing it.
Originally posted by Esoterica
Subversive? It seemed pretty damn obvious to me.
Originally posted by Misfit
Having read (and responding to) your posts of the inquiry of Magik, why are you so adamant about Magik being proven?
Originally posted by Misfit
Well, I guess not too damn obvious to me, or I would not have asked.
Just seems there is an overwhelming push for Majik to be proven.
My thought of subversive was just as I stated.
Misfit
Originally posted by LadyV
You said
I am an athiest for the same reasons I don't believe in phenomena that are not documented, not witnesses, and are untestable. Or at least the tests do not produce predictable results.
The you said
I don't believe that reason could be because some unseen spiritual force is arbitrarily allowing it. If it is being done by a person, then the person is doing it.
I'm confused at this....does this mean that you can prove that unseen spiritual force, or have seen predictable results!?
Originally posted by Esoterica
But, of course there's a push for magic to be proven. There's a push for everything discussed here to be proven. Be it the NWO, UFO's, Bigfoot, whatever. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking for verifiablle proof that such a thing exists.
Originally posted by DeltaChaos
Soon, the Judeo-islamo-christian God will die, and faith will go away. Just like the gods before him.
Originally posted by Esoterica
Originally posted by DeltaChaos
Soon, the Judeo-islamo-christian God will die, and faith will go away. Just like the gods before him.
I do doubt that. Billions of people believing in something doesn't go away over night.
Faith in and of itself is not a bad thing.
Humans by design are believing creatures.
Originally posted by Esoterica
So we form beleifs about the world, and then find facts to reinforce them. If we find facts to the contrary, that belief dissolves and is replaced by a new one.
Originally posted by DeltaChaos
Do you read your horoscope every day. If one were to read their horoscope every day of their life, what are the chances that the information was correct? Now, what are the chances of the horoscope being the same in 20 different newspapers. I know, newspaper horoscopes aren't real. That's a given, but it has the same effect.