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Originally posted by Druscilla
1. Safely distant unambiguous radio signal detected
2. Microbial life, and/or simple life found on Mars, or somewhere else in our solar system
3. Aliens show up in the open to say "hello", destroy us, harvest us, enslave us, make friends, whatever.
4. We find/locate/detect a derelict, or even active alien probe
5. Bio-SETI finds unassailable evidence we were engineered by aliens
6. We find xeno-archaeological remains on the moon, Mars, an asteroid, somewhere: abandoned facilities, listening/transmission/detection/sensing equipment left behind, artifacts of non-human origin.
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Originally posted by Druscilla
1. Safely distant unambiguous radio signal detected
2. Microbial life, and/or simple life found on Mars, or somewhere else in our solar system
3. Aliens show up in the open to say "hello", destroy us, harvest us, enslave us, make friends, whatever.
4. We find/locate/detect a derelict, or even active alien probe
5. Bio-SETI finds unassailable evidence we were engineered by aliens
6. We find xeno-archaeological remains on the moon, Mars, an asteroid, somewhere: abandoned facilities,listening/transmission/detection/sensing equipment left behind, artifacts of non-human origin.
Originally posted by PrplHrt
Maybe we already have our proof. They messed with our food supply.
Originally posted by sparrowstail
How long are we supposed to ignore giant unnatural satellite looking UFO's all around the sun.How long are we supposed to buy lens anomalies?
Seems pretty obvious that intelligently controlled vehicles are orbiting the sun, not getting sucked in, and are most likely harvesting electromagnetic energy. The advanced technology needed to make this so is eons ahead of us. Something unnatural is definitely out there.
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Originally posted by TrueBrit
Originally posted by sparrowstail
How long are we supposed to ignore giant unnatural satellite looking UFO's all around the sun.How long are we supposed to buy lens anomalies?
For at least as long as it continues to be proven that they ARE lens anomalies, hot pixels, or what ever happens to be causing them.
Seems pretty obvious that intelligently controlled vehicles are orbiting the sun, not getting sucked in, and are most likely harvesting electromagnetic energy. The advanced technology needed to make this so is eons ahead of us. Something unnatural is definitely out there.
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The only thing that is "out there" is that people who have barely the wit to tie thier own shoes in the morning see fit to lambast the scientific community, and NASA, when they try to stop people believing that hot pixels and lens anomalies are actually solid objects that exist in real space.
There has never been a solid return that matches the "appearance" of these alleged objects. There has never been a solid debunking of the lens anomaly explanation. There has however, been plenty of the most ill informed prattle I have ever heard, in support of the idea that these non existant objects are alien craft.
The fail is not just strong with this issue, but epic.
There is, and has never been, a single shred of evidence to support the idea that there are objects orbiting, or harvesting anything from the sun. There has been an awful lot of speculation, and not a damned bit of it supported by any actual evidence.
So how long do reasoning people have to put up with this utterly unsupported twaddle? How long are we supposed to accept the witless droning of "Its clearly alien vessels of some kind harvesting from the sun"? Isnt it time that we had some scientific rigor around here? Some sense? Some actual understanding of the equipment being used would explain how these false reads are comming about, but no one seems to want to know about reality around here!
Apart from anything else, this sort of bloody nonsense detracts from the status, of UFOlogy as a serious area of study. Its unhelpful, unrealistic, and causes proper studies to have to work harder to attain results that people will listen to, and all because some people wouldnt know the business end of a particle accelerator from the nozzle on thier vacum cleaner.
UTTER FAIL.
Despite all being scientists and presumably not partial to dishonesty, folk would still require more than that to accept life from elsewhere.
We'd need more.
In the end, so far, we're still left with our hands in our pockets, staring awkwardly at our shoes, still wondering and asking ourselves; Are we alone?
Originally posted by n3mesis
i am a creationist and i believe wholeheartedly that they're out there, could have been here all along, on their way, etc.. am i rare or is there others like me? as far as "our first confirming evidence" i don't know if we'll ever really get that until they roll up and say HI because at this point i don't think we'd be willing or able to accept the "truth" even if it was given to us on a silver platter mainly because of all the lies and disinformation we get on a minute by minute basis just about everything.