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(John 8) Jesus to the Jews:
Originally posted by Aesir26
No: Never once did Jesus even give us one "iota" of proof that Yahweh was the Heavenly Father of which He spoke:
whatever. I don't agree.
Do as you please.
The religious system of Circassians is a part of the Habze – a philosophical and ethical doctrine that regulates all aspects of human life, shapes the relationship of man to man, to the surrounding world, to the Higher Mind-and it is inseparable from it. In essence, it represents monotheism with a coherent system of worshiping One God – T'ha.
According to Circassian cosmogonic texts, the World began with an initial intervention - the construction of Net (Khy). After that objects in the World formed naturally, developing by internal Laws.
T'ha (T'hashxue) is the creator of the Laws of the Universe, which represent His expression. T'ha gave man an opportunity to understand the laws, bringing him closer to God. T'ha does not interfere in everyday life, presenting man with freedom of choice. T'ha does not take any shape, He is Omnipresent, "His spirit is scattered throughout space”.
In Circassian hymns T'ha (T'hashxue) is referred to as "the One everyone asks, but who doesn’t ask back”, "the multiplier of the non-existent”, "on whom everyone places their hope, but who doesn’t place hope on anyone”, "from whom the gifts come”, "His amazing work”, "the One who permits heaven and earth to move”.
It seems quite axiomatic to me that any deity who is an actor or character in a mythical story is automatically a minor deity. If such a minor deity claims to be the "One and Only" then he is a liar. That seems quite plain to me.
So, in brief, Eckhart says that he sees with God's eye. And what is he looking at? Himself, posed with the Creator of the Universe. No ego there, eh?
To their credit, the Eastern Orthodox acknowledge that the logical implication of "becoming (asymptotically) one with God" is only scrupulously different from being God. You can easily understand, then, why someone embarked on this path might find use for counseling. The danger of what Jung called "ego inflation" is clear and present.
The danger is mitigated in Buddhism by instructing that there is no abiding self, not yours and not God's either. BTW, that means there is no actual ego to slay. Just that much reduces the drama. Obviously, every little bit helps.
just pointing out that both approaches make provision for what is a genuine problem for those who seek cosmic excellence and might think they're special when they think they've found it.
Thinking you're special is nature's way of telling you that reports of your ego's death have been greatly exaggerated.
I'm a Christian, but think the OT God is a false god
. he's simply stating something that's inherently neutral. If somebody says 2+2=4 is that ego based is just something that's neutral
However the end result doesn't allow for any "thinking" that their special & have found 'It" since any projected thought or claim is inherently seen as a projection/Illusion/representation.
I still feel that Jesus referencing the OT was specifically to speak the language of the Jews to get through to them.
Yahweh: I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make nations of you, and kings will come forth from you. (Gen 17:6)
Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory; and he said to Him, “All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me.” (Mat 4:8-9)
"But you shall remember Yahweh your God, for it is He who is giving you power to make wealth." (Deu 8:18)
"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth". (Mat 6:24)
"Woe unto you that desire the day of Yahweh! to what end is it for you? the day of Yahweh is darkness, and not light." (Amos 5.18) "The Day of the LORD is darkness, not light", totals 666 in Hebrew gematria.
"This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all." (1John 1:5)
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Deetermined
You mean like stoning people to death... Killing gays, witches, fortune tellers, false prophets etc etc...
So through the New Testament, we see emphasised the importance of “love your neighbour”, and forgiving those who trespess against us, to a greater extent than in the Old. However, those aspects are still a part of the principles contained in the Old Testament.
The Law of Moses contained many provisions that taught and enforced a culture that would loving and conscious of others in the community.
Leviticus 23:22: When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not wholly reap into the corners of your field, neither shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest: you shall leave them for the poor, and for the foreigner. I am Yahweh your God. WEB
Leviticus 25:35: If your brother has become poor, and his hand can't support him among you; then you shall uphold him. As a stranger and a sojourner he shall live with you. WEB
Leviticus 19:18: You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people; but you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am Yahweh. WEB
Essentially, in keeping the Old Testament law in the way that it was intended, people would express love and care for their neighbours. In many ways, the teachings of Jesus were directed at correcting the ways the people had used legalism to misuse God's Law.
Pleased to meet you, dominicus' ego. Impatience is an ego function. Patronization is an ego dysfunction. Anyway, the good news is that you didn't slay the poor bugger.
Yes, 2 + 2 = 4 is inherently neutral. Eckhart decscribing himself as a preoccupation of the Creator of the Universe is, at the very least, remarkable. You are hardly in a position to disagree, since you were the one who brought up Eckhart and what he said.
Hardly. Projection is an unconscious mechanism. So is ego inflation.
Like when when you typed "Sigh." Poker players call it a "tell." You weren't trying to reveal yourself, you weren't aware that you were revealing yourself, but you did. Kind of like blushing... only more chatty.
By "them" you of course mean "Jews like himself." Speaking of whom, Jewish mystical traditions are altogether comparable with Christian or Buddhist approaches. Of course, they're based on what Christians call the Old Testament.