I have been studying pole reversal a bit here and a bit there when I first heard about the possibility 14 years ago. To the people curious of a mini ice age we are over due for one by 50 thousand years, we are on borrowed time. Pole reversals are not a gradual process; unless you consider the process restarting, right after the last flip...which is true...but the last stage is what we are experiencing now, large bubbles of areas showing N when it should be S on a compass. There are computer models of the magnetic reversal; it forms the bubbles the bubbles lopsided just enough, then boom it flips all at once. If you've ever played with magnets, you can see how fast a magnet flips to align with another.

Ok, so it flips what happens on the surface? This is were things get hairy, some think the earth will halt and reverse rotation, some think the whole planet will flip Antarctica is where the North Pole is and vice versa, some people think both, some think rotation won't be affected. If it does any of the above, the earth will be washed over with water...there are giant waves frozen in time in Antarctica from a flash freeze, slowly frozen water freezes smooth.

I don't believe in a literal bible, or god. But some of these creation stories from religions over lap and say the same things. It's best to look at the oldest ones you can find and read for the commonalities.

Is the story of Noah, just that a story hiding real truth or possibility behind it? We can clone, from dna. Just how big of a craft do you think simple DNA strands of all species would take up? What does the oldest written religion say? We were created in jars, to be servants...sounds like cloning and test tube dna babies yes? Is the Noah story a past event AND a prophecy for what keeps repeating here? Have we been here and done this cycle at least 5 times before already? The same mount of times core samples says the earth has flipped? Are we headed there again?

How far advanced did some of the previous humans get? Did they create and live on some of the planets and moons? There are giant tubes on the moon that make little sense. There are metal pipes in the mountains of China that go all the way through the mountains that have been there before we ever had the capability to work metal. Carving out red sandstone I can see it's very soft...but megalithic granite stones cut and polished smooth larger than an average house...yes quite probably from us; but not in this current world since the last ice age.

History is knowledge, very valuable...if the wealthiest families go under ground, or up in space before this coming catastrophe. While everything washes over and settles again...where will history and invention be? With them of course...what have we been doing with the internet since it began? putting all our knowledge and ideas into an unrecoverable format. If reduced to rubbing sticks together for fire for the few that do survive, outside a planned colony...how exactly are we supposed to get to it? with no electricity or power system all electronics are useless garbage.

What about guns? You have to protect them from elements; clean them, have ammo. How many that survive do you think have the ability to cast a bullet, cast or reload a cartridge and have geological knowledge to make gun powder? Most of these bullets will fly away as s. is h.t.f. anyways. What can the average person make and build all by themselves that's useful? Say a person can cast metal into a motor, can they also refine it and find the raw material alloys and build the tools using stone and dirt? extract oil to fuel it too?

Most people are specialized in one field, and know little of the rest of the process, unless its a hobby...even then do they know how to do that hobby all by them selves from scratch? Creating everything needed? Or taking risks to seek out and scavenge possible remnants left behind after the waters recede?

All of this is food for thought; people prep...but are they just hoarding? I suggest packing away documents how to manuals history and expanding your knowledge. I know a lot of this stuff the how to's from scratch, casting, minerals etc. but I am not a prep I do not stock either. I can and could survive in a global shtf. I believe we are animals by nature; we repress tendencies and desires to live and be social in a functioning society. If you plan and prep you may want to get in touch with your animal nature...it should be called when Society hits the fan...it wont exist, it will be chaos, total anarchy at first, people pack and herd together naturally, after things settle little tribes will form and build.

I'm not social a animal, or societal animal, I am a tolerant animal that has no care for personal survival, I just exist with a bunch of other animals, thinking they are something else, that a bunch of made up crap matters, and and afterlife....ha the gall of it all. I will walk to ground zero and catch the first one happily between my teeth, to escape the madness of this made up monkey business that doesn't really matter.

Please note, this is a mental purging; if any of the above is real or not doesn't matter to me...I wrote it because it may matter to some that cling and find life precious. I see it as just a natural process, it's meaning varies from person to person hence the problem; and why we can't just exist in harmony. Food, rest, elimination, inhalation exhalation is all we really need. Everything we tack on to and around this is the problem of the human condition...I just cope, I am not free of empathy...I do care about people and family.

I just have no compassion for people that live in a constant cycle of hurting themselves and others...for junk not required to live or be happy, and force others to exist with more complications than necessary for basic survival...I know there's a desert island out there for me some where...but my mind serves as one well enough.

Mods: this post touches a lot of areas; this spot was my best guess...so feel free to move it where ever.

Wow, trying to cover the whole of ATS in one thread.......not gonna work mate, without at least citing some sources, or info.

I recently watched a documentary regarding pole shifting. It is indeed believed that it happenend before, according to soil samples found in Australia.

However, it was concluded that a pole shift would take at least 1 million years to happen. Its not something that is going to happen overnight, or in the time span of a few hours.

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I've always enjoyed your posts and found your reasoning intelligent, so feel free to purge. I've wondered many of the same things and regarding pole reversal what the OP means is that at the end of the process there is a sudden large movement. I get that and believe it has happened before as frozen mammoths in Siberia are mute testimony of.
There are also many large erratic boulders on top of mountains with their magnetic orientation going the wrong way in relation to other rocks nearby. Velikovsky wrote about this in one of his books. Brilliant guy who doesn't get enough credit imo.

As for rebuilding society it would be a hard task. As Heinlein put it so well "specialization is for insects", yet our society demands it of us more or less as we seek gainful employment. I've made a conscious effort myself to not get stuck in that role and have managed to stay self-employed and used my free time learning various primitive skills which would allow me at least to live in 19th century standards. I don't know if there's many people like me though but if you have a large enough group hopefully all the important skills would be covered. I just finished watching doomsday preppers and most of them have little or no flexibility or redundancy planning if THSTF. It shows a level of simplicity in thinking most can't escape - even the aware ones. As a species we're in trouble if these are the only folks left to rebuild the world.

Anyways, fun rant. Thanks for posting.

Mods perhaps this thread does belong in rants instead... meh who knows?